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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => Off Topic => Topic started by: Pitchy on July 31, 2019, 12:43:36 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o304QFtEUjE
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Got the new Lifan 2.5 hp motor today and put it on the Jari mower, looks like it will work great pouring down rain so can`t test any further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzXPCRXSIIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW3WdYRp8wU
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Thanks Jan, here`s what i found on the mowmaster.
It looks like it`s blue huh?
http://www.vintagemowers.net/mowmaster.htm
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Love that old Cunningham Lenn, and amazing historical piece...but my ohh my, you just keep pulling them out into the light...
That Mow-Master definitely is right up there at the very toprange of the coolest mowers i´ve ever seen, what a gem !!!
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Second pull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGhVT0xqMw4
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I got this mower about 25 years ago, i had it running at that time but it has sat in the shed since then.
Got it out last evening and new it wouldn`t have any spark so had to pull the flywheel which was the hardest flywheel to pull i`ve ever seen.
Cleaned the points and it now has spark so in a while we are going to see if it will live again.
By what i`ve found it was made by Bolens in 1950.
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Thanks Swift Fox, put new belts on the Cunningham today and adjusted things so it works like it should.
The left belt drives the sickle and the right belt the drive, if ya disengage the left belt everything stops.
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Wow looks like you are cornering the world market in lawnmowers Lenn!! :o
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Here`s a couple more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWqbsOd5Pio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CKXGwwBX5s
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You have been busy Lenn!
You are definitely going to have lots of options when it comes to cutting the grass.
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Got the Cunningham going today, it works pretty good the Jari is next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsxUBj-Hvdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JCxUZXir1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWlzXLoGWvA
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That´s a cool machine for sure Lenn (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
Am looking forward to see the Cunningham in action :)
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Finished up the Zipper, put the new drive belt on it today so its self propelled.
Tried it in some heavy grass and it did alright but the old motor doesn`t have a lot of power.
The Cunningham is next or the Jari mower, waiting on engines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DLboJEQiMY
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Thanks fellers, i`m waiting on a belt for the Zipper and motors for the other two, i had a brand new Predator in the box and pulled it out of the box this morn and it`s locked up tight so now i have to go 100 miles and exchange it.
Got this Craftsman reel going just now, never figured it would ever run no spark and stuck everywhere.
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Thanks Charlie, that Toro reel mower is what i wanted at the git go and was lucky to find it in the shape its in.
Got the Cunningham all freed up all i need is a motor and working on getting one as we speak.
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Some interesting designs Lenn. Great to see these jewels being saved from the trash heap.
The Rotary Mower in the last Video sure can get’r done. 🤠
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Thanks Jan, i`m working on the second from the right now, it`s a Cunningham made about 1949. :)
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Impressive lineup on those pictures there Lenn, you certainly don´t do anything half ;D
The one Norma "foie gras" feeds there, is the type we usually see over here as well.
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Norma got it stuck but new toy ya know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvpBDlxUnjs
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Looks like a whole fleet you've got there Lenn.
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Looky what i just picked up. :)
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Sounds very plausible, that more blades will cut easier, given the smaller "bites" taken Lenn.
...but, remembering the manual ones from my own childhood, i seem to recall that well maintained and sharpened mowers, was way more fun to push around for the 50 cent a standard front lawn would pay ;D
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And the answer is the more blades it has the thicker the grass it will cut.
And of coarse the one on the home build isb only a four blade, i have a six blade Scott that will ease through four inch grass.
The four blade will jam right up in thick grass no mater how sharp it is. :)
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I`m not the one to give advice on sharpening, i just free handed with a file until all the blades just touched the cutting bar but it still doesn`t cut as good as some of my other reel mowers, i`m in the trying to figure it out stage. :)
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Please share the sharpening process Lenn...
Guess you´ve made (or bought) some sort of jig for grinding the blade reel, to keep a perfectly even distance to the cutter blade?
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Thanks Charlie glad ya enjoyed it, getting these projects pretty wrapped up. :)
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Lenn:
This morning I re-read this entire thread.
Thanks for another interesting theme.
Really enjoy following your projects
Charlie
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Thanks Jan, the project today is removing the reel mower and doing a complete do over on sharpening it. :)
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Thanks for explaining the details of your "freeing-up-procedure" on the fingercutter Lenn.
Turned out great, the both of them.
Love the clutch system on the reel mower (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
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Thanks Swift Fox.
Made three sections from flat steel plate and installed them and now working pretty good, theres a couple off those wear thingies that push down on the sections to keep them tight against the guards i`m going to build up with weld and grind flat.
When i get the belt on so the self drive works it should be complete.
Also a final video of the reel mower working perfect.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFwj6SDOtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xndjt6gVV3o
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I knew you'd get that up and running Lenn!
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Thanks guys, that engine was in bad shape and even amazed us it was saved, Jan i used a couple different means of freeing the piston.
First it sat a day or so with Kroil oil then tranny fluid then brake fluid with a rag burning in it like a candle then finally a piece of oak on it and a three pound hammer.
The oil pump was unavailable so i left it out the engine has a dip rod on the crankshaft cap so it will be a splash system.
Bought no parts for it just soak, heat, tap and clean until everything freed up.
I`ll make a couple new vids today, i want to try the zipper in some better grass and another run of the reel mower with a new belt and some tinkering on it.
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how you ever found replacement parts for the "Zipper" Lenn….I don't know , but you seem to be able to get something running within hours of the purchase, well done Sir.
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Good job on freeing up the sickle bar mower Lenn - looks like it'll come in handy down the road.
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Just noticing the dark red colour of the fluid, i wonder which product you prefer/used to loosen up the piston?
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Great job getting that one freed up, and back in running order...
Well done, and thanks for sharing the process of getting there Lenn (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
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Very cool.
Tough to use as a beard trimmer. 🤠
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AMAZING ..... What a resurrection!!!
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Great build, Lenn!
That is a real severe duty throttle stop!
Gil
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Few pics of how rough the engine was.
Stuck piston and rusted solid parts.
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I`m winning the battle.
The engine was a real mess but we got her running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4wDFXxIau4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ1LpPHDTmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPhfgz3rJhU
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Thanks Jan, it`s a 1 1/2 HP Lauson.
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WOW... That fingercutter is sooo darn cool Lenn ! :)
Fingers crossed that you manage to get it freed up, and back in running condition.
What engine is that on there?
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Thanks Daniel, i`d sure like to see it run again, it was made around 1948.
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Nice find Lenn!
That one ought to get the OSHA folk's intestines all balled up in a knot!?!?
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Looky what i picked up today, engines stuck and water in the crank case so not sure if it will live again or not.
Filled the cylinder with tranny fluid and crank case and will let it soak.
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Thanks Jan, the seat came of a chit slinger i scraped out. :)
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Safetywise both the deck and the throttle stop seems like great improvements ;D
BTW, love that old school seat pan you´ve used on the sulky.
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Thanks Swift Fox.
Added a throttle stop and a deck.
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That is very cool Lenn!, nice strong engine too.
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Thanks Daniel and Jan glad you enjoyed the vid. :)
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Have so been looking forward to see this one going...
Works amazingly well, great job Lenn !!!
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Yeeeeee Haaawwwwwwwwwwwww Ride'm Lawnboy!!!
Impressive Lenn, as always.
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Plenty of power with the 6.5 HP engine, could of went with a three horse.
Even with the 60 tooth sprocket it still could be geared lower.
I`m going to make a adjustable throttle stop for it so it can`t run away.
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it seems to have plenty of power, and has no trouble pulling you 😊
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Thanks Larry and Bruce, i painted the sprocket black and going to put some floor boards on the cart tomorrow.
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I can see a lot of work went into that Lenn, not only can you clip the grass but you can roll the yard flat as well 😉👍
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Turned out great Lenn - good work!
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Yeeee Hawww, works good. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9owIwcB5mU
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Update, the 60 tooth sprocket is on order and will not be here until Tuesday so i`m on hold.
I did make a top for the front and a tool box.
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Thanks Jan, dern nice little engine so nice i bought two.
If the 60 tooth doesn`t work out thanks for reminding me about running a second jack shaft to gear it down.
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Looks sharp with the engine on there Lenn (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
Fingers crossed your new sprocket will solve the issue, and we get to see it chewing it´s way through your lawn.
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Gearing is way to fast so ordered another sprocket , added a top up front and tool box.
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Thanks Jan, i can hardly wait too sure hope it works.
The only thing i can see going wrong is the speed, might have to change the sprockets around. :)
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Looking good Lenn !
Fingers crossed that the engine does arrive at monday, am really looking foward to see this one going :)
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All we need is the engine which looks like Monday.
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That`s a dolly for a pressure washer.
Sounds like the motor will be here Friday but most likely Monday.
I did get the sweeper engine running but throttle cable is broke so ordered a new one.
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Noticed the bracket at the rear end yesterday, so have been looking forward to see the cart... Nice job on that (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
The sweeper is a pretty handy tool as well.
Have a 42" wheeldriven one here, for pulling after the Husqvarna rider, and it works amazingly well, as long as the grass/leaves isn´t completely soaked.
What´s the green trolley-truck-thing laying behind the sweeper?
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We got the fat man cart made today, went to the local small engine shop and dug in his scrap pile.
The sweeper might even run.
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Thanks Larry. :)
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Looks good Lenn, it's coming together nicely.
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Thanks fellers, got the drive roller on today but waiting for a couple sprocket that should be here tomorrow, engine Friday at the earliest .
Daniel i`ve had the old drill press for 30 years it was made by the Superior machine co.
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This will no doubt be another Classic Pitchy creation. Certainly looking good so far!
Hey Lenn, could you tell us about that old drill press back by the door sometime when you're not so busy?
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this is getting interesting, keep up the good work Lenn.
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There will be a centrifugal clutch on the engine then too a four inch sprocket on a jack shaft then a small sprocket too a six inch sprocket on the drive drum. :)
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You´re certainly getting there...
How will you set up the transmission from the engine?
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Thanks Jan, got the handle and throttle control on too.
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Looks so cool already Lenn, well done !!!
...and with a 6.5 hp engine on it, it has the potential to be the worlds first drifting reel mower as well 8)
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Ok fellers i have no idea if this is going to work but feel good about it.
It will have a Predator 6.5 motor on it.
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Thanks Jan and Larry, i`ve been thinking about checking with a few golf coarses for a factory mower but i hardly go any where anymore trying to get the kid to look around but that`s iffy ifnhe wanted one for himself he`d found one by now.
Yea i`m looking forward to building this thing, the mower will mow just like pushing it, the only thing powered will be the chassy .
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Our first mower after getting married was a reel type which worked great on our tiny yard - pushed easy and did a wonderful job cutting the grass instead of whacking it off like a rotary. Only bad thing was that it wouldn't cut the buckhorn but I could live with that as the price for the mower was right.......free from the neighbor's trash pickup pile. Looking forward to your motorized version Lenn - ought to be interesting!
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Grew up with such a mower as well, but didn´t take me long to prefer the engine driven versions.
Actually until a few years ago, i used a well used 3-gang reel mower (Jacobsen Green King) here, which i via a lot of dealing back and forth managed to buy from the local golf course, but in the end found it to demanding space and servicewise.
As a lawnmower, i know of no types doing a better job than these, being able to actually cut the grass instead of ripping it.
Will be looking forward to see you build Lenn :)
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Thanks Bruce, i`ve been ordering sprockets, a new 7 hp motor and other stuff for the build.
My plan is to mount one of these mowers between a couple 2x6`s in the front so it works just like pushing it.
Then i`m going to make a 8 inch wood drum for the back and chain drive that through a jack shaft to a centrifugal clutch on the motor.
Hopefully it will work. :)
It will have handle bars on the back and pull a single axle dolly with a seat i can ride on.
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I used to regularly pick up freight from "Great states" lawnmowers (formally American mowers) they made reel type mowers & were one of the last ones that did, had a friend who worked there & he told me that the 7 blade mower was much better than the 5 blade model , his job was to sharpen the rotating cutting blades & set the cutter blade (critical) to proper clearance. if done well these mowers will cut with ease. there is a sharpening tool the can run back & forth across the cutter blade to sharpen both the cutter & real cutter blades (much like a meat slicers sharpening tool works) ,unfortunately ….most owners NEVER sharpened their mower blades.
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Thanks guys, why i`m messing with them i have no idea i can`t even walk behind one with this hip problem.
So tomorrow i`m on a quest to build a self powered mower with a tow behind trailer i can ride on.
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Takes me back to the days when my grandfather had a concrete driveway that had a strip of grass running down the middle. It was my job when visiting to push the reel mower and cut that strip of grass...of course it got too long and was a bugger to mow, but fond memories none the less.
Rog
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Those are quite common where i live since many of my neighbors are Amish! Even more interesting is the specialized machine they use to sharpen the blades.
crazydoug
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Those are nice, Lenn. I only have one older one that washed up in my Moms backyard with the last flood. Not really functional, but a wall-hanger.
I do have a modern one(can't remember the manufacturer but it was u.s. based) given to me years ago that I use in the winter. These are great cutting machines, set up properly and sharp. And quiet, dust free and zero emissions- depending on the operator's diet. My only complaint is with only an 18" reel it takes a while to cut the lawn. And honestly the aren't too much more work than a regular gas push mower to me.
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We recently ditched our gas mower and now mow our small lawn with one of these. One of the benefits is that we can mow early when it is cooler and not piss off the neighbors.
Thanks for posting the pictures Lenn.
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Most people have a negative view about using a reel mower but if it`s sharp and ya don`t let your grass get long they push easier than a gas mower and use no gas and are quiet.
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I only ever used one of these just the once, glad I did and glad I never did again :)
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Yep .... I well remember the "Joy" (to be read as Misery) of pushing one of those around my parents yard for many a year! They were great at teaching a young feller such as myself not to procrastinate too long before cutting the grass, as the longer it got the tougher that job became. Not so much nowadays, what with the gas engine doing the actual work.
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Picked up a few old reel mower and got them running.
What i want to find is a Atco or simuliar with a gas engine.
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