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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: RedRyder on November 29, 2019, 05:15:26 pm
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There...it is done!
It took a while but I got the 20 pages of this thread from the Mamod board republished here in the Office of Steam Forum.
A big thank you goes out to all who have so kindly given permissions to share your replies on our new forum.
Now I will unlock this thread.
Gil
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Posted: 9:18 PM - Dec 02, 2017
redryder
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Posted: 10:53 PM - Dec 04, 2017
oilfield_steam
Gil, I'm certainly looking forward to this wonderful beast coming to my neck of the woods. Thanks!!!
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Posted: 6:08 AM - Dec 05, 2017
redryder
oilfield_steam wrote:Gil, I'm certainly looking forward to this wonderful beast coming to my neck of the woods. Thanks!!!
Congrats, Scott...!!! I know it is going to a great new home!
Gil
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Posted: 6:47 PM - Dec 06, 2017
redryder
....
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/320_65e32f50d0b52365e5e4bc9e4026a82a_t.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/320_67054e5be0af5eee4033014fe194e63e_t.jpg)
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Posted: 6:49 PM - Dec 06, 2017
redryder
.... xxxxxxx ......
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/320_65e32f50d0b52365e5e4bc9e4026a82a_t.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/320_67054e5be0af5eee4033014fe194e63e_t.jpg)
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Posted: 6:53 PM - Dec 06, 2017
Nick
Wow Gil! That must be a hard one to let go of!! Congrats Scott!!!
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Posted: 7:25 PM - Dec 06, 2017
Ben
Just read through this whole thread, wow. What an engine, and given all the right fettling and careful restoring (as usual) to Gil's high standards.
Thanks for sharing it with us, what a great runner it is too!
On a side note, I wished most eBayers knew how to pack an engine like that - nice job!
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Posted: 11:40 PM - Dec 06, 2017
MrDuck
A parade piece for certain. You'll love it, Scott.
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Posted: 3:46 PM - Dec 07, 2017
Camst648
This tread show so much of the depth Gil brings to the hobby and our forum.
what wonderful reading AND view'ing.
Thank you Gil and every one else on this tread.
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Posted: 10:22 AM - Dec 08, 2017
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Posted: 9:51 AM - Oct 16, 2017
Andy.m1965
Thank you for the video Gil - I enjoyed it very much.
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Posted: 12:53 PM - Oct 16, 2017
Stoker
What a beautiful beast ... and I especially like the flat belt drive for the dynamo!
Glad you resurrected this video from the archives Gil ... Thanks!!!
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Posted: 12:59 PM - Oct 16, 2017
pitchy
Awesome engine Gil, love it.
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Posted: 1:20 PM - Oct 16, 2017
MrDuck
It is a grande engine and great vid of it.
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Posted: 3:58 PM - Oct 16, 2017
Dr. Rog
WOW - so awesome.
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Posted: 5:32 PM - Oct 17, 2017
redryder
Thank you, all. I really enjoyed making the video.
I must admit that these days when I want to see it run.....
I usually go right to this video which is a lot easier to start up and clean up after!
Gil
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Posted: 10:05 AM - Dec 02, 2017
redryder
This morning I went through this thread and added back the 7 or 8 videos that tapatalk lost on the way.
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Posted: 10:55 AM - Dec 02, 2017
Stoker
Nice Gil ... I guess that means I'll have to go clear through this old thread once again ... for the umpteenth time. Oh darn, I really hate doing that ... NOT!!! ;c) ________________________________________
Posted: 8:15 PM - Dec 02, 2017
redryder
I must admit that I did very much enjoy going through the entire thread earlier today and yes I am thankful for all the kind and helpful words expressed here.
Gil
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Posted: 9:08 PM - Dec 02, 2017
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Posted: 10:14 PM - Dec 07, 2013
Earlytimes
That looks good , Gil ..... and you still have the original, so it's a win win.
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Posted: 11:42 PM - Dec 07, 2013
steamernick
wow Gil, that is very very close to the original finish and on brass
to boot!
you've done such a lovely job with that engine
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Posted: 9:14 PM - Dec 09, 2013
redryder
Thanks gents, for all the nice comments, tips, and information.
Good Lord this forum is a great resource..!!!
Gil
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Posted: 10:19 PM - Dec 09, 2013
IndianaRog
Gil, you have restored an awesome steam engine and done it with care and attention to detail above and beyond.
Simply gorgeous!
Rog
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Posted: 2:54 AM - Dec 10, 2013
Dampfzauberer
Gil,
is the original tube a seamed tube or made of one piece?
If it is a seamed tube, then i would rather keep the original one on the engine.
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Posted: 6:33 AM - Dec 10, 2013
redryder
Dampfzauberer:1004275 wrote:Gil,
is the original tube a seamed tube or made of one piece?
If it is a seamed tube, then i would rather keep the original one on the engine.
Yes, of course the original tube is seamed and of steel. For display purposes at home the brass replacement will remain.
The original will always be near it and properly marked as such. Even if the original were on the engine I would not display it with the seam facing the eye. With the new tube it just looks neater and cleaner and it takes less than 10 seconds to swap back to the original tube.
Gil
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Posted: 7:14 AM - Dec 10, 2013
Dampfzauberer
Ah, thats good them :lol:
(still, if it was my engine, I'd leave it original, also to show the age) ________________________________________
Posted: 1:34 PM - Dec 10, 2013
Dr. Rog
Nice job, a very good match.
(What an engine :D :D )
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Posted: 12:55 PM - Dec 15, 2013
redryder
This post is just to test a thumbnail from photobucket.
Edit.... and it is working fine.
(there was an issue with these on the Smokstak Forums and I believe they fixed it. No fix needed here!) ________________________________________
Posted: 6:02 PM - Oct 15, 2017
redryder
I am having trouble finding another thread where I posted the live steam test of this engine so I will add the video to this thread (which is probably where it belongs).
Enjoy,
Gil
I recommend using this link for hi resolution on a full screen as the embedded videos are now quite small.
https://youtu.be/a-lwonAlVOI
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Posted: 9:01 PM - Nov 19, 2013
redryder
At the end of the last long run, it sprung a nasty steam and water leak.
This site glass tube is the culprit:
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04398.jpg)
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Posted: 9:10 PM - Nov 19, 2013
redryder
..........
I just got in a supply of 7 mm glass tubing and a cutter from Avagadros Lab Supply, Miller Place, New York.
Pyrex Borosilicate Tubing
7 mm x 61 cm - Five Pieces (24 inch lenths)
I have just made and installed a new site glass on my second attempt.
First piece broke as I tried to force it. In retrospect I might have had an easier time with a slightly smaller tube. 7 mm is the absolute maximum the fittings will take. I chose this as I felt it would make a better seal against the O-rings. The smaller size could allow a piece of the o-ring to pop out under heat and pressure.
Does anyone know if they used wood as a seal?
I have been asked this by a fellow collector.
Gil
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Posted: 10:28 PM - Nov 19, 2013
Earlytimes
The engine looks Grand, Gil nice job!
As far as wood goes for a seal I haven't seen any on older engines that might be original..... I have seen a sort of dried putty that may be original.
I've used wood to seal things before .... a hole in a radiator in a pinch...
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Posted: 5:31 AM - Nov 20, 2013
kno3
A beautiful engine! Does it use piston valves?
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Posted: 6:19 AM - Nov 20, 2013
redryder
kno3:997081 wrote:A beautiful engine! Does it use piston valves?
It does not look like a piston valve rig.
Looks more like a D-valve but I cannot be sure.
It works perfectly, the machined surfaces don't leak, so I will not be taking it apart anytime soon.
Perhaps one of our Marklin experts could weigh in on this.
Gil
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Posted: 7:13 PM - Nov 28, 2013
redryder
UPDATE:
A great big thank you to steamtoys who went out of his way to get someone to make very nice copies of the correct original 3 sided slotted site glass guard.
The maker even nickel plated them and all for a nice reasonable price.
I drilled the holes a couple thousandths too close together for the express purpose of allowing the site glass guard to help hold the fittings a hair closer together as they tend to spread apart vertically as more pressure is applied to the glass when tightening on the o-ring seals. Below you will see how I took up the difference with a C-clamp that I removed after installing tightening the retaining screws. Then I gave it a good steam test to about 50 psi with no leaks!
Gil
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04541.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04489.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04488.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04487.jpg)
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Posted: 7:14 PM - Nov 28, 2013
redryder
Here it is under pressure:
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04478.jpg)
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Posted: 7:32 PM - Nov 28, 2013
Earlytimes
Great job... a nicely made piece that looks original.
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Posted: 1:39 AM - Nov 29, 2013
steamernick
Wow the transformation is quite magical! And that sight glass cover looks totally original! beautiful work! And yes you are correct, the engine uses a D type valve complete with tiny spring like things to keep the valve sealed against the port face As far as i know, Schoenner, Falk, and Marklin were the only ones to use a "D"type Valve.
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Posted: 9:56 PM - Dec 07, 2013
redryder
Here I have made a replacement chimney tube just for display. The original chimney will always remain with this engine but since it was a little tatty I got a piece of brass tubing, polished it and then experimented with some bluing/blacking solutions. I came up with a shade that while not exactly the nice original Marklin blue that is on their steel parts, it is not too far off the mark and pretty good for brass.
To get here I mixed a little Brass Black and Super Blue (for steel) together and applied the mix gently with a chunk of 0000 steel wool soaked in it. (both from my local gunsmith shop)
Here are the pictures of it on the engine and I am holding the original chimney tube next to it.
It looks more grey with the original chimney next to it and more blue when by itself.
Gil
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04541.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04549.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04550.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04551.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04552.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04553.jpg)
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Posted: 6:49 PM - Nov 09, 2013
redryder
I attempted another live steam test and it sprung a huge steam leak due to a failed seal at the top end of the site glass tube. It is now setting up with fresh rubber seal and a little clear silicone. I also tested the burner on Graves grain alcohol 95% pure (190 proof, same as Everclear).
I will try it again late tonight or tomorrow.
Gil
https://youtu.be/SliHSgF_hzM
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Posted: 7:15 PM - Nov 09, 2013
redryder
So I enlisted the help of Santa Clause to tend the boiler. I made him a small coal shovel with a brass blade that I dipped in a blackening solution I got from a gunsmith shop.
(new brass just wouldn't look right)
Gil
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04318.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04320.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04321.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04322.jpg)
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Posted: 7:17 PM - Nov 09, 2013
MrDuck
Not bad at all considering :D
My little Mrklin 5 decided to spit me in the face when the sightglass burst a leak :lol:
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Posted: 7:53 PM - Nov 09, 2013
redryder
MrDuck:991339 wrote:Not bad at all considering :D
My little Mrklin 5 decided to spit me in the face when the sightglass burst a leak :lol:
I am thankful mine wasn't blowing steam in my face when it let go.
Gil
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Posted: 1:46 AM - Nov 10, 2013
steamernick
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Posted: 5:13 AM - Nov 10, 2013
Dampfzauberer
Gil, this is important:
You did not remove hardened oil from the boilers casing.
It was the blued steels protective finish.
If you want to preserve the blueing (because it might tarnish unevenly now, greasy fingerprints etc) you should put that coat back on.
This is not clear paint, it is a varnish calles in Germany "zapon lack"
which is in english nitro.cellulose laquer i think.
The best is to get a spraycan wit this stuff, apllying is easier then.
It dries quick and leaves a superthin and even, clear coating.
btw. all blued steel parts did have this finish.
Thats why fireboxed are often so black: the varnish has burnt and hardened
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Posted: 6:18 AM - Nov 10, 2013
redryder
Thanks, Mirko. This is very good information and I will get after it.
Nitrocellulose lacquer is still available here. Early automobiles were painted with it. Today it is still used on fine guitar finishes, at least when restoring guitars and other wood instruments from the 50's and 60's among other things.
Gil
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Posted: 6:19 PM - Nov 10, 2013
redryder
Today's project:
I have added a new 16 minute video here and in the video section.
It took a couple hours of preparation and then burning alcohol for just under an hour.
I got a bit over 40 minutes of run time when the burner dried up.
The video involves warm up, start, run, electrical testing and demonstrating and a Marklin Saw accessory thanks to Maxwell (Mike).
Here:
https://youtu.be/a-lwonAlVOI
Enjoy,
Gil
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Posted: 7:05 PM - Nov 10, 2013
steamernick
That is wonderful information about the lacquer ________________________________________
Posted: 7:24 AM - Nov 13, 2013
redryder
For contrast, some before and after clean-up pictures....
Still more work to do, mostly very minute detailing, cleaning, and seals.
Enjoy,
Gil
Before:
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/BV084.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/BV085.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03721.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03721-1.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03724-1.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03722-2.jpg)
After:
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04259-1.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/b6cc8ef8-52a8-48e6-8bf3-61a706106317.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04168.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04175.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04157.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04158.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04162.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04165.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04174.jpg)
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Posted: 11:28 AM - Nov 03, 2013
Finally at rest in good hands, what a treasure. I'm sure it will be most happy.
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Posted: 10:45 PM - Nov 04, 2013
redryder
It was time to tackle cleaning the boiler and firebox. The nearly 1/8 inch of soot while a dirty job, came out quite easily with a brush and vacuum.
Getting the years of baked on oil off of the blued metal boiler sheath was a real nasty task and a balancing act. I needed to come up with a way to break down the rock hard oil film without taking the blue surface off the metal. I tested ideas in an inconspicuous place and came up with the right solution. Then the trick was to use enough force but not too much.
The required formula was quadruple zero ultra fine steel wool (0000) soaked with acetone and given a healthy dollop of Maas metal polish. The combination needed constant refreshing with both acetone and Mass added often as it's effectiveness fell off very quickly. Once done I went over it lightly with just Maas and a microfiber polishing towel.
I am happy to say that I am mightily chuffed with a most satisfying result...!!!
Gil
Here is the firebox and underneath the boiler.
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04110.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04112.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04118.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04125.jpg)
And.... Here is the boiler after some hard labor and noxious fumes.
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Posted: 12:37 AM - Nov 05, 2013
stenella
Excellent work - you'll probably have sore and solvent-soaked finger by now, but looking at this fantastic machine should help with the recovery!
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Posted: 6:07 AM - Nov 05, 2013
redryder
stenella:989661 wrote:Excellent work - you'll probably have sore and solvent-soaked finger by now, but looking at this fantastic machine should help with the recovery!
I used surgical gloves and went through 4 pairs of them. When the fingertips wore through I got a little.
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Posted: 7:27 AM - Nov 05, 2013
MrDuck
That is quite an impressive boiler
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Posted: 7:31 PM - Nov 05, 2013
redryder
More pictures after detailing work...
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04162.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC04165.jpg)
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Posted: 7:57 PM - Nov 05, 2013
Earlytimes
Nice Job and pictures ... it's a neat engine .... Gil
The 10 stamped on the engine parts were probably the bench builders way of keeping it's parts identified from others.
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Posted: 6:05 AM - Nov 06, 2013
MrDuck
Good job cleaning and fantastic engine
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Posted: 7:48 AM - Nov 06, 2013
IndianaRog
Gil, just discovered this thread and enjoyed watching a gorgeous Marklin emerge from the dirt and grime. You have given it a new lease on life and now it resides in a home that will love and appreciate such a wonderful piece.
Very, very nice!
Rog
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Posted: 8:00 AM - Nov 06, 2013
redryder
IndianaRog:990082 wrote:Gil, just discovered this thread and enjoyed watching a gorgeous Marklin emerge from the dirt and grime. You have given it a new lease on life and now it resides in a home that will love and appreciate such a wonderful piece.
Very, very nice!
Rog
Thanks, Rog...! Nice to see you posting a bit and I knew you would appreciate this when you found it.
Gil
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Posted: 4:35 AM - Oct 27, 2013
MrDuck
A magnificent sight
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Posted: 6:00 AM - Oct 27, 2013
yussufhippo
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Posted: 6:16 AM - Oct 27, 2013
Sandman
What a beautiful piece of kit Gil. :love:
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Posted: 7:43 AM - Oct 27, 2013
Maxwell
Hi Thomas,
Yes, I have a 4158/9 old edition with the same exact burner.
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Posted: 8:15 AM - Oct 27, 2013
St. Paul steam
Really great to see it running Gil, it has the unmistakable sound & deep thump of an engine of considerable size...music to my ears.
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Posted: 8:31 AM - Oct 27, 2013
Dave S
Really fantastic. It runs really well and sounds very much like a full sized engine
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Posted: 5:41 PM - Oct 27, 2013
mrborinator
Haven't yet received OK from Rob to share his replies.
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Posted: 6:43 AM - Oct 28, 2013
tmuir
Thanks for the vid Gil.
Makes a nice solid sound, I like it.
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reddrryder
Thanks, Tony!
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Posted: 7:10 PM - Oct 30, 2013
redryder
The cleaning continues.
I got a peak "under the hood" when I removed the rear engine plate and the blue steel lagging which needed straightening. I just hand straightened it for now and while not perfect, it came out pretty good. Here are a few pictures of what I uncovered during this little project.
Enjoy,
Gil
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(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03905.jpg)
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Posted: 7:26 PM - Oct 30, 2013
Maxwell
Super Nice. :love:
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Posted: 7:19 AM - Oct 26, 2013
MrDuck
I don't say they don't serve a purpose but in olden days there was multiple standards for what pressure a toy steam engine would work under. The larger were adapted for about 2 Bar whilst the smallest were for 1 Bar.
I regard it much as a technical finesse attributed the most advanced models for aesthetic rather than, not excluding, technical reasons.
Of course it should be there if it was and preferrably in working condition :D
(I reiterrate that I make good use of them whence there.)
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Posted: 8:06 AM - Oct 26, 2013
redryder
MrDuck:986064 wrote:I don't say they don't serve a purpose but in olden days there was multiple standards for what pressure a toy steam engine would work under. The larger were adapted for about 2 Bar whilst the smallest were for
1 Bar.
I regard it much as a technical finesse attributed the most advanced models for aesthetic rather than, not excluding, technical reasons.
Of course it should be there if it was and preferably in working condition :D
(I reiterrate that I make good use of them whence there.) I do the same. I have even acquired a couple gauges for engines that don't have them like with most of my Jensens.
I should add that from a pure safety standpoint, I agree that given a machine with a safety valve that releases at 10-25 psi, yes you can be safe without a gauge and yes it is a bit more interesting with the gauge. Even the Wilesco pressure gauges that are actually thermometers look the part, have functionality, and are watched.
Gil
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Posted: 11:50 AM - Oct 26, 2013
redryder
Here's what we have been waiting for.......
The video of the.....
Marklin 4158/11 first live steam test live from the Office of Steam.
I am happy to report it is using it's own original burner which I have fixed.
Enjoy,
Gil
https://youtu.be/Q9giK6W2V38
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03835L.jpg)
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Posted: 12:00 PM - Oct 26, 2013
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Posted: 12:10 PM - Oct 26, 2013
Maxwell
Thanks Gil for posting the only video on the web that I know of that is showing a Marklin 4158/11 running under steam. :D ________________________________________
Posted: 12:26 PM - Oct 26, 2013
Earlytimes
Sweet !! Thanks for posting that...... Gil.
Nice to see it under steam...... The burner was working great.
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Posted: 1:59 PM - Oct 26, 2013
SteamerJ
That's awesome Gil! That engine has the good solid build quality that is lacking in the 16051. Thanks for the video, it is a treat to watch.
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Posted: 2:43 PM - Oct 26, 2013
stenella
wonderful - can't get over how well the dynamo seems to work too, even at low speeds!
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Posted: 7:14 PM - Oct 26, 2013
redryder
Maxwell:986158 wrote:Thanks Gil for posting the only video on the web that I know of that is showing a Marklin 4158/11 running under steam. :D I think you are right, Mike. I haven't found another on youtube yet.
Gil
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Posted: 4:32 AM - Oct 27, 2013
whistleman
good on ya Gil, she's a sweet runner and looker! :)
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Thanks, Clinton!
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Posted: 7:37 AM - Oct 25, 2013
Earlytimes
So the coiled piece had just broke free from the solder and you resoldered it and it works fine ?
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Posted: 8:11 AM - Oct 25, 2013
redryder
Bob, It works fine but is clearly not going to be as accurate as it once was.
The earlier repair also did not likely leave it as accurate as it once was.
I recall Mirko saying that the fact that it is there is more important than that it works and that many of them do not work anymore.
I was fortunate the passage from the body to the coil did not plug itself with solder.
Gil
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Posted: 8:51 PM - Oct 25, 2013
Earlytimes
redryder:985782 wrote:Bob, It works fine but is clearly not going to be as accurate as it once was.
The earlier repair also did not likely leave it as accurate as it once was.
I recall Mirko saying that the fact that it is there is more important than that it works and that many of them do not work anymore.
I was fortunate the passage from the body to the coil did not plug itself with solder.
Gil
Thank's for the info and I agree. :D
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Posted: 9:52 PM - Oct 25, 2013
redryder
.
Tonight I repaired and tested the burner.
With solder, a torch, and some flux, I fixed about 10 leaks on the soldered seams of the burner.
It isn't pretty but looks better than it did and no longer leaks!
Gil
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03816.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03815.jpg)
The test:
https://youtu.be/DKVoR5Wzctc
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Posted: 10:06 PM - Oct 25, 2013
Earlytimes
Hmmmm..... that doesn't seem hot enough. Is the wick just in the verticle tube ?
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Posted: 10:23 PM - Oct 25, 2013
redryder
Earlytimes:985933 wrote:Hmmmm..... that doesn't seem hot enough. Is the wick just in the verticle tube ?
The wick goes to the bottom of the tank.
When it is hotter more alcohol vaporizes.
There is very little alcohol in the tank and the small warm up wicks may need replacing.
I had to tilt it to get some alcohol to the wicks.
When I steam test it I will find out if the combination of more alcohol and confinement of the firebox will let it get warmer and burn nicely. Will update as I test it hopefully tomorrow.
Gil
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Posted: 5:23 AM - Oct 26, 2013
Earlytimes
Ok, low on fuel.... so burning down.
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Posted: 5:39 AM - Oct 26, 2013
redryder
Earlytimes:986018 wrote:Ok, low on fuel.... so burning down.
There may still be an issue with the amount of flame and I will not know until I give it an in service test.
I have not used this burner design before so I am still learning and I agree that it needs more flame to be effective.
Gil
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Posted: 6:55 AM - Oct 26, 2013
MrDuck
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Posted: 7:05 AM - Oct 26, 2013
redryder
MrDuck:986045 wrote:I think we exagerate the need of pressure gauges for these toys as they have functioning safety valves. But I admit I follow mine on the engines that have them 8) I would respectfully disagree. All full sized boilers have safety valves and gauges.
Those of us with the slightest sense of engineering in our heads, do like to monitor these nice little engines.
In addition, to any collector, if it came with a gauge, it must have that gauge.
Gil
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Posted: 8:20 AM - Oct 23, 2013
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Posted: 9:28 AM - Oct 23, 2013
redryder
Dampfzauberer:985129 wrote:You better don't do that!
Has no great sense, it is better to leave it as is.
One tip: you can take gun blueing to touch up lost paint on the base.
(if it appears too shiney, the metal beneath) Otherwise any touch up would decrease its value (a collector also might think: if THIS has been touched up, what ELSE might be wrong on this engine?")
Thanks Mirko. Gun bluing may be the best possible solution.
It would take the curse off the too bright bare metal without covering the metal with speckled paint that, as Maxwell correctly pointed out, I could not possibly duplicate.
Gil
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Posted: 5:30 PM - Oct 23, 2013
steamtoys
Gill you mentioned possibly needing a laced belt. Look what is lurking in my cellar. I have done 1/2" belts that looked good. Yes it is a small Clipper Belt Lacer.
Ron
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/Mini%20Lacer.jpg)
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Posted: 6:25 PM - Oct 23, 2013
redryder
Ron, that sure is a handy tool!
Gil
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Posted: 6:05 AM - Oct 24, 2013
MrDuck
Gil, I sigh with delight at that sight :D
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Posted: 6:37 AM - Oct 24, 2013
redryder
I will also need to fix the gauge.
The needle was all the way to the right and quite loose although still on the pin.
Gil
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Posted: 7:13 PM - Oct 24, 2013
redryder
Does anyone have a decent Marklin gauge they would like to sell?
The one with this engine is in need of repair or replacement.
The hollow coil is separated from the steam line entrance at the bottom.
It looks as if it has been repaired before.
I also thought I might borrow Stuart gauge off my nickel plated 500 boiler
but it turns out it was an H.E. Boucher gauge which is a lot harder to find
than a Stuart gauge so it will remain intact.
Gil
Here some some pictures:
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(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03803.jpg)
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Posted: 9:28 PM - Oct 24, 2013
redryder
Yaaayyyy!!!!!!!
On the second attempt at melting it back together withit's old solder and a little flux added.....
I got it to work again!
Also put air to it under water and found no leaks.
Gil
Here is the test:
https://youtu.be/cd0eARFcRbw
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Posted: 5:51 AM - Oct 25, 2013
yussufhippo
Have not yet received permission from Thomas to share his replies.
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Posted: 7:37 AM - Oct 25, 2013
Earlytimes
So the coiled piece had just broke free from the solder and you resoldered it and if works fine ?
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Posted: 5:58 PM - Oct 22, 2013
Maxwell
Where is Mirko the number one expert in Marklin steam Engines to tell us more about these large engines, and their characteristics?
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Posted: 6:44 PM - Oct 22, 2013
redryder
Dr. Rog:984954 wrote:8) 8) 8) :D :D :D
An absolutely amazing engine. Most of the patina was just dried oil by the look of it. :shock:
Right. It doesn't seem to have much patina.
The nickel wipes clean with an oily rag.
I have not polished any of it.
There is a sort of dried once oily haze on the boiler and chimney. Since the chimney is half rusted anyway, I tested cleaning it with acetone. It required some rubbing and left a nice blue finish. (No longer yellowed)
Gil
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Posted: 6:50 PM - Oct 22, 2013
redryder
Maxwell:984978 wrote:Where is Mirko the number one expert in Marklin steam Engines to tell us more about these large engines, and their characteristics?
Good question... Are you out there, Mirko?
I am interested in learning more.
For example does anyone know the bore sizes?
Gil
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Posted: 9:14 PM - Oct 22, 2013
redryder
Here is a video of the 2nd air test. I cleaned up the sight glass and fixed a couple leaks and have a couple left to attend to.
I think it would be prudent to put a thinner belt on it as this one seems heavy and adds drag.
Does anyone know what the original belt was like?
Gil
https://youtu.be/vMbodD-Q6NQ
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Posted: 9:45 PM - Oct 22, 2013
Earlytimes
Runs good..... Gil
Be very careful with the finish on the base, it's very easily damaged....
The belt does look heavy. Not sure what they used ?
I see the little lamp is just hanging there.... that's good no holes were drilled.
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Posted: 3:56 AM - Oct 23, 2013
Dampfzauberer
I am watching this thread with great interest.
But i cannot tell you anything new about this engine.
It is simply too big and too rare for me. I am better in telling you something about the smaller and more common engines.
Anyway, i believe the belt was a thin leather belt that was glued and/or sewed together.
That thick belt is 100% wrong and far too thick...
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Posted: 6:36 AM - Oct 23, 2013
redryder
Dampfzauberer:985054 wrote:I am watching this thread with great interest.
But i cannot tell you anything new about this engine.
It is simply too big and too rare for me. I am better in telling you something about the smaller and more common engines.
Anyway, i believe the belt was a thin leather belt that was glued and/or sewed together.
That thick belt is 100% wrong and far too thick...
Thanks, Mirko. For the near future I will make a short cloth belt.
Then I could order a length of the PM Research belting material which is woven with a black rubber or silicon coating.
This can be glued or sewed.
Gil
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Posted: 6:38 AM - Oct 23, 2013
redryder
Would it be acceptable to touch up the paint where there are scratches on the base or to add some missing paint back to the dynamo?
Without killing the value?
Gil
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Posted: 8:09 AM - Oct 23, 2013
Dampfzauberer
You better don't do that!
Has no great sense, it is better to leave it as is.
One tip: you can take gun blueing to touch up lost paint on the base.
(if it appears too shiney, the metal beneath) Otherwise any touch up would decrease its value (a collector also might think: if THIS has been touched up, what ELSE might be wrong on this engine?") ________________________________________
Posted: 8:12 AM - Oct 23, 2013
Maxwell
redryder:985102 wrote:Would it be acceptable to touch up the paint where there are scratches on the base or to add some missing paint back to the dynamo?
Without killing the value?
Gil
Hi Gil, I would leave it the way it is. It is almost a 100 years old. The original paint is oven heat treated, and it is impossible to recreate the little white freckled paint. I also noticed that you pressed the cylinders cover a little while cleaning, but this can be fixed easily.
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Posted: 6:26 PM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
Here is a short and not well regulated air test but is enough to prove the
engine and dynamo work just fine.
https://youtu.be/nwYnPaxYgf4
And more pictures:
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03761.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03764.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03766.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03775.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03777.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03778.jpg)
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Posted: 6:40 PM - Oct 21, 2013
Maxwell
WOW, Music to my ears, and Beauty in motion. :cheers:
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Posted: 7:23 PM - Oct 21, 2013
Earlytimes
A Super find... Gil
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Posted: 7:39 PM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
xlchainsaw:984557 wrote:nice engine ...fantastic burner ..i would love to
see it in flamesjust a tube with a wick in itdown to a vented tank
??...it will drink the meths :shock: so stock up
The burner has a few leaky seams so will not be fired until properly
repaired.
I was also hoping to light it up!
Gil
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Posted: 7:59 PM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
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wrote: What is the weight of that monster? and
compared to your largest Jensen how is it? larger smaller?
Good question....
Clearly the Jensen 51 is larger at 34" wide and 27" tall with the tower.
The better comparison (photos included) is to the Jensen #50 which is the
power for the 51.
The Marklin 4158/11 is a bit larger at 21.6" X 21.6" (base) vs. 20" X 18"
for the Jensen 50.
The Marklin weighs about 36 lbs.
The Jensen weighs about 30 lbs.
The Jensen boiler has a greater capacity as it is a full 5" X 10".
Both have feed water pumps.
Gil
Here are pictues of the 4158/11 and the #50 side by side
and then with a Jensen 10 and a Steamco included in the picture.
These should give you a good sense of what a massive beast it is.
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03786.jpg)
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03789.jpg)
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Posted: 8:24 PM - Oct 21, 2013
However it will be a while as I need to free up a couple stuck valves,
replace some seals
such as for the boiler plug and site glass and hopefully without breaking
the glass.
I am considering replacing the belt with one that isn't so thick.
Also, the spirits leak out of the burner almost as fast as I fill it so a
little work is ahead.
Gil
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Posted: 9:25 PM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
Stoker:982422 wrote:Fantastic Gil, couldn't be happier for you ... or for
the engine, in finding such a good home!
Congratulations to you both!!! :wink:
Thanks, Daniel. Yes it has found a good home.
Gil
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Posted: 7:33 AM - Oct 22, 2013
Freespawn
You have ruined another keyboard ........ Drool .........
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Posted: 4:48 PM - Oct 22, 2013
Dr. Rog
An absolutely amazing engine. Most of the patina was just dried oil by the
look of it. :shock:
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Posted: 7:53 AM - Oct 21, 2013
Earlytimes
Very nice condition !! Neat engine :)
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Posted: 8:02 AM - Oct 21, 2013
Wow! What a difference you have made already Gil to what is a magnificent example of the model engineers' art. Congratulations on your purchase, and to the fact that it arrived safely for you.
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Posted: 8:18 AM - Oct 21, 2013
Earlytimes
What does the tag below the cylinders say ? boiler diameter ?
The shipping box looked bullet proof....
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Posted: 8:58 AM - Oct 21, 2013
tmuir
Wow, thats in great condition.
Just needs a wipe down with an 'oily rag' and it will be ready to run.
I do hope you do a video of it running.
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Posted: 9:03 AM - Oct 21, 2013
dwulfe
Awesome find. Congratulation!
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Posted: - Oct 21, 2013
Sweet. What is the weight of that monster? and compared to your largest Jensen how is it? larger smaller? 8) ________________________________________
Posted: 4:53 PM - Oct 21, 2013
stenella
That engine is to die for! (Well, I wouldn't *really*, but still!)
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Posted: 5:30 PM - Oct 21, 2013
27ace27
Good as new! :D :love:
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Posted: 6:16 PM - Oct 21, 2013
MrDuck:982410 wrote:A dream-machine :D
ditto... :love:
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Posted: 11:03 PM - Oct 20, 2013
redryder
OK I am in bed now.....
But first I carefully unpacked it and carefully removed a fair amount of the loose crud on it.
I will get some pictures up tomorrow.
It was very well packed and remained upright and unstacked all the way here.
Good night all,
Gil
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Posted: 11:09 PM - Oct 20, 2013
Earlytimes
Can't wait to see it.... go to sleep ________________________________________
Posted: 11:27 PM - Oct 20, 2013
scalex
sweet Marklin dreams Gil :lol: :lol:
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Posted: 7:06 AM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
Here are a few pictures of the truly good packaging.
Gil
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Posted: 7:12 AM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
Here are some fresh out of the crate pictures.
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redryder
The burner is interesting to me as I was expecting to see a triple element set up.
Instead it has one long tube.
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Posted: 7:21 AM - Oct 21, 2013
AlexinSuffolk
A lovely looking engine you have obtained there Gil, I look forward to seeing it cleaned up and running, no doubt another office of steam treasure there.
~Alex~
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Posted: 7:23 AM - Oct 21, 2013
Maxwell
redryder:984516 wrote:The burner is interesting to me as I was expecting to see a triple element set up.
Instead it has one long tube.(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/DSC03730.jpg)
Hi Gil,
Some of the early versions had that kind of burner. I have seen it before.
In fact I like them more than the independent seperate flares as you get more uniform heat distribution at the boiler surface this way like the burner for the Stuart 504. Very nice engine.
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Posted: 7:31 AM - Oct 21, 2013
logoman
the cleaning of that piece of mechanical art must be one of the highlights of this year for you, just the right amount of dirt
I love those two little coiled wires.
congratulations Gil.
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Posted: 7:37 AM - Oct 21, 2013
redryder
Most of the crud was just laying there.
Here it is after the initial vacuum and wipe down.
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Posted: 5:48 PM - Oct 17, 2013
redryder
....
Do any of you have copies of old catalogs that show and describe the Marklin
4158/11 ?
If so, please post here.... perhaps a scan or good photograph of the relevant pages.
Any old literature on it will be helpful.
Thank you in advance,
Gil
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Posted: 5:25 AM - Oct 18, 2013
#1steam
steamtoys:982926 wrote:Gill: You mentioned pictures of my large Marklin Vertical.
This is also somewhat of a Monster. I do have a small line shaft to install also need a pump and Gov.
Ron
I think that is the same one as my dad owns
http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about65848.html
Great engine
Nicolas
EDIT: it is complete and in original condition, there is a close up of the boiler feed pump I think, I hope that helps
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Posted: 10:32 AM - Oct 19, 2013
from Marklin catalog from 1935
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Posted: 10:57 AM - Oct 19, 2013
redryder
Thanks,
Gil
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Posted: 5:14 PM - Oct 19, 2013
redryder
I must admit...........
The anticipation...............
is getting to me.....!!!!!
It is sitting in a freight terminal less than 30 minutes from my home.
I can't pick it up as no one is there on the weekend.
Hopefully they deliver it Monday (or I pick it up).
Gil
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Posted: 5:28 PM - Oct 19, 2013
Earlytimes
I know the feeling.... so close
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Posted: 8:21 PM - Oct 20, 2013
redryder
redryder:983951 wrote:I must admit...........
The anticipation...............
is getting to me.....!!!!!
It is sitting in a freight terminal less than 30 minutes from my home.
I can't pick it up as no one is there on the weekend.
Hopefully they deliver it Monday (or I pick it up).
Gil
I just called the Old Dominion Freight terminal. The 8:00 pm shift that prepares for Monday morning just came in.
Good news here.... They will let me go over and pick it up in an hour..!
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Posted: 9:01 PM - Oct 20, 2013
Earlytimes
Your going to be up late
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Posted: 9:33 PM - Oct 20, 2013
TRAPPERKEEPER
Earlytimes:984421
wrote:Your going to be up lateWell worth it
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Posted: 10:08 PM - Oct 20, 2013
Maxwell
It's worth it. :thumbs:
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Posted: 5:10 PM - Oct 15, 2013
redryder
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benchmark:982670 wrote:
Wow Gil, this plant is just marvelous. An engine that commands respect and interest worldwide. I am looking forward to a video .
Thanks, Kenneth. I hope to be able to make a nice video of it under steam.
After clean up, I will lubricate and air test it. If all goes well, live steam will be in order. Compounds really prefer live steam and a work load.
Gil
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Posted: 5:13 PM - Oct 15, 2013
redryder
Ron, how about a picture of the whole engine. If I remember right it is quite a good sized vertical Marklin and a real nice looking one at that.
Gil
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Posted: 5:23 PM - Oct 15, 2013
H2o vapour
Have not yet received permission from Mark to share his replies.
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Posted: 3:29 AM - Oct 16, 2013
logoman
Great, what score! Congratulation Gil.
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Posted: 11:19 AM - Oct 16, 2013
It might be a rare version, but it is faulty. Marklin had to change the design and reverse the cylinders after discovering that running the steam supply pipe for a longer distance without any insulation was causing the high pressure cylinder to choke and knock because the steam was condensing into water before it gets to the high pressure cylinder.
Honestly, I beg to differ here. I own a few engines whose steam pipes are not much shorter and running well...
However, my experience with my own Marklin compound (which is the latest, i.e. cheapest, edition and in such a sorry state that I do not hesitate to run it once in a while...) shows that these compounds do have a problem: the oilers of the second, low-pressure cylinder invite you to oil it as deliberately as the first cylinder - but we shouldn't forget that these cylinders are linked directly!
Thus the gooey steam/water/oil emulsion of the high-pressure cylinder is directly transported into the second cylinder only to find some additional high-viscosity steam oil there.
No wonder these compounds tend to choke...
A case of "less is more"...
And again - an absolutely lovely dream engine you have found there! Was it advertised anywhere or a case of sheer serendipity that you found it???
And is it rearly the large 11cm boiler??? You should rent a safe box at a local bank in that case...
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Posted: 12:41 PM - Oct 16, 2013
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Posted: 12:45 PM - Oct 16, 2013
steamtoys
Gill: You mentioned pictures of my large Marklin Vertical.
This is also somewhat of a Monster. I do have a small line shaft to install also need a pump and Gov.
Ron
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Posted: 12:49 PM - Oct 16, 2013
redryder
Thanks, Ron. Looks good!
Gil
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Posted: 3:13 PM - Oct 16, 2013
Steam Den
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steamtoys:982926 wrote:Gill: You mentioned pictures of my large Marklin Vertical.
This is also somewhat of a Monster. I do have a small line shaft to install also need a pump and Gov.
Ron
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Posted: 3:44 PM - Oct 16, 2013
Maxwell
steamtoys:982926 wrote:Gill: You mentioned pictures of my large Marklin Vertical.
This is also somewhat of a Monster. I do have a small line shaft to install also need a pump and Gov.
Ron
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Hi Ron,
Lovely vertical Marklin you've got there. I have an extra original complete Marklin governor that I placed somewhere that might fit your engine. If you are interested, I will look for it and can bring it with me to the next Cabin Fever and see if it fits.
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Posted: 8:17 AM - Oct 15, 2013
St. Paul steam
what a large beast, very nice Gil, I'm happy for you as well.
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Posted: 8:37 AM - Oct 15, 2013
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Maxwell:982382 wrote:Here is Klaus' Marklin that sold for 10K + 25% commission
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:shock:
Please note that this compound (photo above!) has the low-pressure cylinder (the larger one!) close to the boiler and the smaller high-pressure one facing the viewer! A rare (and extremely expensive) version!
Redryder's engine has the more common lay-out: high-pressure facing boiler, low-pressure on the outside.
BUT: It is a very, very impressive engine, in a lovely state (PLEASE do not polish the patina off, IMHO), very nice details.
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to more photos (and videos?)
I can imagine you are pretty nervously expecting its arrival. May I recommend a dose of Lagavulin 16yrs, at discretion!
It might be a rare version, but it is faulty. Marklin had to change the design and reverse the cylinders after disovering that running the steam supply pipe for a longer distance without any insulation was causing the high pressure cylinder to choke and knock because the steam was condensing into water before it gets to the high pressure cylinder.
So, to me I would not like to have an engine just because it is rare, but because it has the correct scientific concepts applied and that it works.
Otherwise, I would buy a cheap static cast. :)
Gil & Max I beilieve you have the best edition of that engine out there. The last one sold this summer without a dynamo for 6,000 Euro plus 22% auction house commission.
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Posted: 9:14 AM - Oct 15, 2013
redryder
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Maxwell:982382 wrote:Here is Klaus' Marklin that sold for 10K + 25% commission
:shock:
Please note that this compound (photo above!) has the low-pressure cylinder (the larger one!) close to the boiler and the smaller high-pressure one facing the viewer! A rare (and extremely expensive) version!
Redryder's engine has the more common lay-out: high-pressure facing boiler, low-pressure on the outside.
BUT: It is a very, very impressive engine, in a lovely state (PLEASE do not polish the patina off, IMHO), very nice details.
Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to more photos (and videos?)
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I can imagine you are pretty nervously expecting its arrival. May I recommend a dose of Lagavulin 16yrs, at discretion!
It might be a rare version, but it is faulty. Marklin had to change the design and reverse the cylinders after disovering that running the steam supply pipe for a longer distance without any insulation was causing the high pressure cylinder to choke and knock because the steam was condensing into water before it gets to the high pressure cylinder.
So, to me I would not like to have an engine just because it is rare, but because it has the correct scientific concepts applied and that it works.
Otherwise, I would buy a cheap static cast. :)
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Gil & Max I beilieve you have the best edition of that engine out there. The last one sold this summer without a dynamo for 6,000 Euro plus 22% auction house commission.
Thanks, Joe. Would you have a link to that auction?
Gil
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Posted: 9:30 AM - Oct 15, 2013
steamtoys
Gill: Quite sure this is what you need if so I have one that can be used as a pattern. May have someone to make a couple!!
Ron
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Posted: 10:20 AM - Oct 15, 2013
Steam Den
Thanks, Joe. Would you have a link to that auction?
Gil
Here is the one I am talking about, no dynamo and sold in Germany for 6000 Euro this summer + 22% auction house commission.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/172 ... ine-415811
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Posted: 10:35 AM - Oct 15, 2013
redryder
Steam Den:982587 wrote:Thanks, Joe. Would you have a link to that auction?
Gil
Here is the one I am talking about, no dynamo and sold in Germany for 6000 Euro this summer + 22% auction house commission.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/172 ... ine-415811
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Thanks again, Joe! I fixed my post above to reflect your name correctly.
Gil
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Posted: 12:09 PM - Oct 15, 2013
SteamerJ
:love: :love: That is awesome and I look forward to seeing it running! A great addition for the office of steam.
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Posted: 12:56 PM - Oct 15, 2013
redryder
steamtoys:982579 wrote:Gill: Quite sure this is what you need if so I have one that can be used as a pattern. May have someone to make a couple!!
Ron
Ron, thank you. It looks like Maxwell and I will both need the glass guard.
I will be in touch after it arrives.
Gil
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Posted: 5:07 PM - Oct 15, 2013
benchmark
Wow Gil, this plant is just marvelous. An engine that commands respect and interest worldwide. I am looking forward to a video .
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Posted: 9:20 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Maxwell
Hi Gil,
You are also missing the glass gauge metal protector that I am missing on my engine too. Please let me know if you will contract someone to manufacture it for you as I would like to have one for mine. Klaus engine was the first edition and was missing the burner and no door, it also had the high and low pressure cylinders reversed with the high pressure cylinder away from the boiler. Marklin corrected this flaw later as with your engine and mine.
Here is some more photos that can help you complete yours.
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redryder
Thanks for these pictures, Mike.
And thanks for pointing out the missing glass guard.
I may need to replace the handles on the valves too.
Does yours have a round feed water pump or a squared one like Klaus's and mine?
Gil
Maxwell
redryder:982428 wrote:Thanks for these pictures, Mike.
And thanks for pointing out the missing glass guard.
I may need to replace the handles on the valves too.
Does yours have a round feed water pump or a squared one like Klaus's and mine?
Gil
I have the same square pump on mine too. All the paint on yours is original enamel paint. I would not touch it. Good luck.
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Posted: 9:59 PM - Oct 14, 2013
angus
A mighty machine indeed
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Posted: 10:15 PM - Oct 14, 2013
redryder
Maxwell:982430 wrote:
redryder:982428 wrote:Thanks for these pictures, Mike.
And thanks for pointing out the missing glass guard.
I may need to replace the handles on the valves too.
Does yours have a round feed water pump or a squared one like Klaus's and mine?
Gil
I have the same square pump on mine too. All the paint on yours is original enamel paint. I would not touch it. Good luck.
This is my thinking too. I will just give it a thorough cleaning.
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Posted: 11:09 PM - Oct 14, 2013
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Posted: 3:08 AM - Oct 15, 2013
whistleman
wonderful! Gil. enjoy her.
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Posted: 4:40 AM - Oct 15, 2013
Maxwell:982382 wrote:Here is Klaus' Marklin that sold for 10K + 25% commission (https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fi257.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh210%2Freddrryder%2FMarklin%25204158%2520C%5B%2Furl%5D%3Cbr+%2F%3Eompound%2FKlaus%25204158-11.jpg&hash=aa3e793d221571171ae6e1f8fc08c90601dee2c6)
(https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgallery.myff.org%2Fgallery%2F1646746%2F12763659_1_x.jpg&hash=9528f0c9b4edf05d1c5b4e357eadb1805cdbcbfa)
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I can imagine you are pretty nervously expecting its arrival. May I recommend a dose of Lagavulin 16yrs, at discretion!
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Posted: 6:19 AM - Oct 15, 2013
James
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Posted: 6:22 AM - Oct 15, 2013
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Posted: 6:17 PM - Oct 14, 2013
gary
Have not yet heard back from gary regarding sharing his replies.
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Posted: 6:24 PM - Oct 14, 2013
calypso
Great find, Gill. Truly a wonderful engine.
Look forward to seeing how it cleans up.
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Posted: 6:45 PM - Oct 14, 2013
doug
WOW!!! great find.....
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Posted: 7:00 PM - Oct 14, 2013
mogogear
Happy "crate" opening Gil
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Posted: 8:17 PM - Oct 14, 2013
MrDuck
A dream-machine
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Posted: 8:45 PM - Oct 14, 2013
redryder
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quote: Treating this engine the way it is being placed on 3 trash cans, and the surrounding mess indicate that the seller did not know the priceless value of such engine. I am glad it is going to a good home now to be taken care of.
Congratulations,
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I would not malign the seller/owner too much as he has passed away. I bought it from his estate auction and it was the only engine in the auction.
Also, no more worries about the uneducated not treating it right as the auctioneer has already personally delivered it to Craters and Freighters who are excellent at protecting what they ship.
[size=78%]Gil[/size]
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Posted: 8:49 PM - Oct 14, 2013
redryder
mogogear:982396 wrote:Happy "crate" opening GilThanks, Greg. It will come boxed and strapped to a small skid. It is a lot more expensive than your local UPS store but Craters and Freighters, while not cheap, are well known for delivering special and delicate items unharmed.
Gil
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Posted: 9:02 PM - Oct 14, 2013
redryder
Maxwell:982382 wrote:Here is Klaus' Marklin that sold for 10K + 25% commission
(https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fi257.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh210%2Freddrryder%2FMarklin%25204158%2520C%5B%2Furl%5D%3Cbr+%2F%3Eompound%2FKlaus%25204158-11.jpg&hash=aa3e793d221571171ae6e1f8fc08c90601dee2c6)
I believe that adjusting knob hanging over the end of the dynamo is about all that is missing from the one I just acquired. I ought to be able to make one with a little help.
Gil
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Posted: 9:09 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Stoker
Fantastic Gil, couldn't be happier for you ... or for the engine, in finding such a good home!
Congratulations to you both!!! :wink:
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Posted: 9:12 PM - Oct 14, 2013
crazydoug
WOW! great buy Gil. How do you find these engines? When i search for auctions with steam engines, all that comes up are TRAINS. I should start collecting trains i guess. Can't wait for the video. crazydoug
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Posted: 5:48 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Freespawn
wow I'm sure that will clean up nicely what a score
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Posted: 5:51 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Maxwell
Hi Gil,
You got yourself a Marklin 4158/11 with the old style horse shoe dynamo.
That is identical to the one that sold at Klaus second auction for 10K + commission.
I have one of these and they are the largest Marklins available
You did very well. Enjoy.
Mike
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Posted: 5:51 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Les
:shock: :shock: Wow, what a score, well done Gil.
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Posted: 5:57 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Maxwell
Here is Klaus' Marklin that sold for 10K + 25% commission
(https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Bfont%3DVerdana%5D%5Burl%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fi257.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh210%2Freddrryder%2FMarklin%25204158%2520C%5B%2Furl%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Fsize%5D%3Cbr+%2F%3E%3Cbr+%2F%3E%5Bsize%3D2%5Dompound%2FKlaus%25204158-11.jpg&hash=1a16f85340593b0491d7c69fcd9b295575329f38)
(https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgallery.myff.org%2Fgallery%2F1646746%2F12763659_1_x.jpg&hash=9528f0c9b4edf05d1c5b4e357eadb1805cdbcbfa)
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Posted: 5:59 PM - Oct 14, 2013
steamtoys
Rather than sitting on those buckets it would look better on my shelf!!!
Fine Engine
Ron
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Posted: 6:01 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Earlytimes
Wow!!! That is BIG...... :shock:
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Posted: 6:15 PM - Oct 14, 2013
ferrysteam
Blimey! it can't be far off full size.... :shock:
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Posted: 6:15 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Congratulations,
Joe
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Posted: 6:17 PM - Oct 14, 2013
Sandman
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To be clear: This is my 2013 thread from the Mamod board.
I have secured permissions from nearly all the contributors.
If I included your post(s) in error and you wish it removed please just ask or give us permission to leave it.
Oct 14, 2013 These are the only pictures I have that came from the auctioneer's website.
It is getting crated for shipment now so I will put up some
good pictures after it's arrival and a little clean up.
I arranged for the auctioneer to call me when it came up for the hammer and let me bid live over the phone.
(I was in Vermont at a show and the auction was over 700 miles away)
It is a very large one. For size reference,
it is sitting on 3 five gallon buckets.
Gil
(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/BV084.jpg)(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/reddrryder/Marklin%204158%20Compound/BV085-1.jpg)
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