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Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: classixs on May 11, 2020, 02:49:33 am
That sure is a neat one, thanks for sharing Doug  :)
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: RedRyder on May 10, 2020, 10:14:21 am
Doug, that is a truly wonderful electric motor...!!!

Thanks for showing it here.

Gil
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: crazydoug on February 04, 2020, 10:29:48 am
This site may help and / or give some clues on No6 battery refit.
https://sites.google.com/site/johnengsdeadtechrescue/photos/john-s-ideas-to-restore-dead-technology/vintage-no-6-dry-cell-comes-to-life-again
You could use single D cell battery holders wiring 2 in parallel or you can solder directly to the terminals but a very hot Iron is needed to make the join quickly, too slow and the cell will be damaged.

Thanks Dave,
That is JUST the information I was looking for and could not find. That will make it as close to original (and working) as you can get.
doug
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Steam Technology on January 31, 2020, 03:04:38 pm
This site may help and / or give some clues on No6 battery refit.
https://sites.google.com/site/johnengsdeadtechrescue/photos/john-s-ideas-to-restore-dead-technology/vintage-no-6-dry-cell-comes-to-life-again
You could use single D cell battery holders wiring 2 in parallel or you can solder directly to the terminals but a very hot Iron is needed to make the join quickly, too slow and the cell will be damaged.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: crazydoug on January 31, 2020, 07:37:05 am
Thanks, that gives me several options. I have several originals (all quit dead of course). I am considering trying to dig the guts out of one enough to put 2 D cells inside. I'm not sure what is inside those #6 batteries, but I'm betting it won't be easy to dig it out!
crazydoug
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Steam Technology on January 30, 2020, 03:44:26 pm
Or these to build one up from
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-COLUMBIA-IGNITOR-No-6-DRY-CEL-BATTERY-NATIONAL-CARBON-CO/173832471956?hash=item2879390594:g:6esAAOSwrn9cfXkS
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-Burgess-No-6-Giant-Ignition-Dry-Cell-Battery-6-5-x-2-5-Display-TFA033/184017343302?hash=item2ad849d346:g:xm8AAOSwGzBdmPun
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Steam Technology on January 30, 2020, 03:34:44 pm
Not being up with U.S. suppliers I did a bit of searching. Try these
https://www.batterygiant.com/Batteries/EN6
http://www.batteryjunction.com/exell-eb-r40.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn8mGzIXu1QIV3LrACh1lYQceEAYYASABEgJ4MPD_BwE

These seem to be the cheapest.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Junkologist on January 29, 2020, 10:06:34 pm
Here’s a dummy #6 cell that I have. It’s made from a piece of 2” schedule 80 pvc pipe 6-1/4” long. The two D cells are arranged to be connected in parallel. This cell is very well made and will last me as long as I live. I think I paid $45 for it. Well worth it.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: crazydoug on January 29, 2020, 08:00:53 pm
Thanks Dave,
I had not run across the R40 cells- had to see what they were after reading your reply.. 4000ma would run my solenoid engine forever! I would still want to make a more "period" appropriate label though.
crazydoug
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Steam Technology on January 29, 2020, 03:41:26 pm
You probably know this already but R40 cells are still available.
Making your own case to take F cells or D would be cheaper though, 2 inch PVC pipe and caps etc are a good size match.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: crazydoug on January 29, 2020, 01:24:35 pm
Thanks all,
I am contemplating making a couple repro #6 dry cells. one for this motor and one for a motor specifically designed for an #6 battery to be installed inside the motor. Someone is making a repro, but it is pricey$35. with shipping, and that is with an open bottom which won't work in my application. Making the lable will probably be the hardest part, since my computer skills are nill.
crazydoug
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: jkbixby on January 27, 2020, 02:27:38 pm
That's a really special motor - very nice!
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Nick on January 27, 2020, 11:44:26 am
That's a very attractive motor  8)
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: txlabman on January 27, 2020, 11:15:05 am
I really like this one Doug!

Thanks for posting the video.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Steamloco on January 26, 2020, 04:59:43 pm
A work of art, both static and in motion.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Hero on January 26, 2020, 02:34:24 pm
Runs very smoothly, Doug.
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: Junkologist on January 26, 2020, 11:51:45 am
That is a very nice piece! I could watch that run until the batteries were dead, and that may take several days. Lol
Title: Re: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: St Paul Steam on January 26, 2020, 06:41:36 am
That is an exquisite electric motor Doug, that I have had the privilege of seeing 1st hand.
Title: Early Electric Motor Cleaned Up and Running
Post by: crazydoug on January 26, 2020, 06:24:14 am
This is a reproduction early electric motor by Anton Stoelwinder.  It is an exact duplicate of the first electric motor built by Paul Gustave Froment in 1844. 

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https://youtu.be/QP_1-IiUwHk