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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: tenniV11 on March 16, 2020, 03:59:12 am

Title: Re: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: tenniV11 on March 20, 2020, 03:10:52 pm

I am happy - the engine was made by Henrich & Gröning Lüdenscheid (Western Germany) in 1950. The Company produced 12 different
Steam-engines and it is possible that Wilesco bought HGL - the look comes really close. Thanks to a nice Gentleman from Germany
the problem is solved.
Happy steaming and stay healthy, tenniV11

Title: Re: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: tenniV11 on March 19, 2020, 03:43:58 pm

Thank you for the name WGL - but I rather think it could be a prototype of very early WILESCO
because of the Cast Alloy. Wilesco has a large production of household items made from Cast Alloy.
And look at the design - it is close to the Märklin 4097/8 or the Wilesco D24.
Looking forward to a reference...
Happy steaming, tenniV11
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Title: Re: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: yussufhippo on March 19, 2020, 06:31:16 am

Your guess that it might be a GDR/DDR produce is an understandable one, but I am sure this is not the case here.

I'd rather say this a very rare model made by WGL/HGL (even the name is up to discussion: Wilhelm Groening, Lüdenscheid, Germany or Heinrich/Henrich und Groening, Lüdenscheid), the mysterious forerunner of Wilesco.
Yes, I know, most of their engines look more like clumsy Wilesco-fakes, but there are also some engines attributed to this maker which look much more decent and well made - e.g. a really nice overtype (one once owned by Mirko...) and the cylinders are the same.

A very nice engine, I do understand why you wanted to have it.

PS: Lüdenscheid is a small town in Western Germany...

Title: Re: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: Steamloco on March 16, 2020, 10:12:43 am

Sure looks well built. Shipping must have been close to purchase price. Well done!

Title: Re: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: Hero on March 16, 2020, 07:46:37 am

Well, whatever it is, it looks like you got a deal!

Title: Unknown Steam Engine - electric
Post by: tenniV11 on March 16, 2020, 03:59:12 am

High Folks - just bought this engine (ebay) for $ 23.00 - which was extremely low priced!
It is almost made from cast Alloy (platform - enginebase - boilerstand). It is only marked
220 Volt - 600 Watt! Color is all original - great condition and it works powerful. The manometer
is a dummy one - never seen something like this. All parts incl. the boiler are nickel plated.

What Brand???? Could it be from ex GDR???? The Gaselan Engines look smiliar???

Thanks for your help....