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Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on July 10, 2020, 04:36:53 pm
I put it on the bottom of the SV and twist it in and leave it set for a few days.

I also use it on my sight glass repairs.

When Danny @Nuvolari visited in January he taught me the technique (along with many other useful hacks).
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on July 10, 2020, 03:34:01 pm
Charlie, I was able to get in touch with Dave who makes whistles. (see reply #25 above)
I believe that he also sells SV weights.

Curious about your process,
Do you just make a ring of gasket maker around the hole in the boiler and twist the safety valve in and let it cure, or
do you apply a thin layer on top first, then after it cures twist the valve in at a later time?
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on July 09, 2020, 05:24:16 pm

Great work!

Did you make the whistle?  If not, where did you find one?

BTW: I use Permatex High Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket Maker to seal the twist in safety valves and whistles on these old Weeden Engines.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on July 08, 2020, 07:01:33 pm

Well, I think I have all the pieces now.

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I just have some work to do fitting the site glass.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 17, 2020, 05:23:59 pm
Thank you very much Frank, I'll send him an Email.

If he does (or is willing to make some) I would be interested in purchasing 3 or 4 for my parts box.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 17, 2020, 04:58:06 pm
Thank you very much Frank, I'll send him an Email.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: Weedensteam on June 12, 2020, 03:23:37 pm
Seems to me that Dave, firefite, was reproducing the old style whistles with the thumb screws, I won't post his email but you can contact him from my site:
http://weedensteam.com/store.html#bayonetsafetyvalve
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: Nick on June 11, 2020, 11:36:12 pm
Nice Buy!  8)
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 11, 2020, 09:41:37 pm
First one that I believe I have seen running  8)  Was this an ebay find? antique shop find?

It was in fact an E bay find, I figured for $80.00 and shipping it would be a fun restoration.

OMG! 

What a steal!!!

Congratulations. 👏👏👏👏👏
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 11, 2020, 04:33:58 pm

First one that I believe I have seen running ...

Ditto, thanks for sharing Bill !

Any chance of a detail view from the opposite side, specifically to see the valve setup?

As I dig into it a little more I will post pictures of the other side.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 11, 2020, 04:31:17 pm
A great way to start the day seeing this beauty running!

Thanks for posting the video.

I was just tickled to see it run with the little air pump.
Thanks again for all the info Charlie.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 11, 2020, 04:29:28 pm
First one that I believe I have seen running  8)  Was this an ebay find? antique shop find?

It was in fact an E bay find, I figured for $80.00 and shipping it would be a fun restoration.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: classixs on June 11, 2020, 01:17:49 pm

First one that I believe I have seen running ...

Ditto, thanks for sharing Bill !

Any chance of a detail view from the opposite side, specifically to see the valve setup?
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 11, 2020, 09:34:52 am
A great way to start the day seeing this beauty running!

Thanks for posting the video.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: Nick on June 10, 2020, 11:13:08 pm
First one that I believe I have seen running  8)  Was this an ebay find? antique shop find?
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 10, 2020, 05:52:56 pm
So today I tried the engine out with a little aquarium pump.
And it goes! :)

https://youtu.be/mCtJUw34CBY

It still needs a lot of cleanup but I'm very pleased to see it moving.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 09, 2020, 12:00:20 pm
Thank you Charlie.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 09, 2020, 11:47:27 am
Thanks Charlie, every bit of help is appreciated.
Thanks for the heads up about the site glass, you'll have to clue me in about why the new ones don't fit.

I checked the newer sight glass fittings today and they should fit.  The one I had that it didn't fit on was a Weeden No. 3.

Unfortunately, I was not able to find the correct whistle for you in my bits box.  From the pictures, it looks like the whistle is the twist in type (like the weighted safety valves on early models).  Is that correct?

I will be on the look out for a whistle for you.  It will be difficult to find one. 
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 09, 2020, 10:37:25 am
The add states Water Glass gauge but I have not seen a picture of a number 8 with a gauge.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 08, 2020, 06:28:05 pm
All of those images show the steam pipe soldered to the boiler.
I have not yet found a picture of an 8 with a set up like mine.

The No. 16 had a similar plinth for it's horizontally mounted engine.

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It makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 08, 2020, 05:59:05 pm
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Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 08, 2020, 05:58:43 pm
Thanks Charlie, every bit of help is appreciated.
Thanks for the heads up about the site glass, you'll have to clue me in about why the new ones don't fit.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 08, 2020, 05:50:01 pm
Thanks for the information,

Now I have a much better understanding of Century old Weedens.

I have recently acquired a No. 8 and it seems a good candidate for restoration, or at least a partial restoration.
I would really love to see it run again.

It is missing a couple of bits, the weight and sight glass should be easy enough to get through Weedensteam.

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The foot will need to be re soldered.

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I guess the most difficult piece to find will be the missing whistle.
If anyone has a lead on one I would be very very grateful.

OMG!  Where did you find a Number 8?  I have been looking for one since I started collecting. This is an Uber rare engine. Congratulations. 👏👏👏👏

One of the big holes in my Weeden collection.

I may be able to help with the whistle. I may also be able to help with the sight glass fittings; new one won’t fit.

Let me look in my parts cabinet.

If you ever decide to part with it, please let me know!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Or, if you are interested in a trade, I would be very generous. 🤠
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 08, 2020, 05:05:01 pm

Here is the loose foot
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Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 08, 2020, 05:02:17 pm
Thanks for the information,

Now I have a much better understanding of Century old Weedens.

I have recently acquired a No. 8 and it seems a good candidate for restoration, or at least a partial restoration.
I would really love to see it run again.

It is missing a couple of bits, the weight and sight glass should be easy enough to get through Weedensteam.

[attachimg=1]

The foot will need to be re soldered.

[attachimg=2]

I guess the most difficult piece to find will be the missing whistle.
If anyone has a lead on one I would be very very grateful.


Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: Tadfafty on June 07, 2020, 06:34:48 pm
It is from when they changed to the new design of safety valve.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 07, 2020, 03:58:12 pm
Thanks Charlie,
It seems that the earlier models would have had a steam dome and a whistle with hand wheel like in the ad,
or a weighted safety and a whistle with hand wheel mounted on top of the boiler.

Correct.  The later version have a screw in safety valve and a lever whistle.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 07, 2020, 02:53:38 pm
Thanks Charlie,
It seems that the earlier models would have had a steam dome and a whistle with hand wheel like in the ad,
or a weighted safety and a whistle with hand wheel mounted on top of the boiler.
Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 07, 2020, 01:13:22 pm
Here is the description from "Weeden, The Company and its Products" by Kenneth Trobaugh:

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Title: Re: Weeden questions
Post by: txlabman on June 07, 2020, 12:31:37 pm
The last picture is a later model and they changed the connection to the boiler.

The earlier models (pre-1930s) had a wooden box.  The later models had cardboard boxes.

The tricky thing with these engines is the reversing gear is often missing.

I have accumulated a number of these as parts engines. I have two complete ones I have made from them.

It is the only Weeden with a reversing lever.
Title: Weeden questions
Post by: AirSpyder on June 07, 2020, 09:39:33 am
Hi guys,
I'm hoping some of our more knowledgeable Weeden folks can answer some questions for me.
While looking at Weeden engines I have noticed differences in the way the steam line leaves the boiler on some models.
in this image of a no. 17 it comes from the top of the boiler.

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the same in this image

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While in the image below it is soldered to the boiler.

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was this a change made by Weeden during their years of production of this model or a modification made during a restoration?
I have noticed this on other models as well.