Post by: Woe is me on January 16, 2021, 10:08:37 am
shipping for orders over $25.
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 30, 2020, 11:01:09 am
What type of Solder and Flux did you use on the bushings?#8 solder & the appropriate flux, I do prefer liquid flux.
Post by: Nick on September 30, 2020, 09:03:51 am
Hey Bruce @St Paul Steam, what were the dimensions of this new burner that you found? And what’s the smallest diameter you can trim it down to? Wondering if it will work in my new D.K.
I was wondering the same thing Nick for my DK. 🤠
I’ll let you know if I find a smaller one...
Post by: txlabman on September 30, 2020, 09:02:19 am
I hope you will do more in the future.
It’s great for Novices like me to be able to learn from a Master Restorer.
What type of Solder and Flux did you use on the bushings?
Post by: txlabman on September 30, 2020, 08:59:42 am
Hey Bruce @St Paul Steam, what were the dimensions of this new burner that you found? And what’s the smallest diameter you can trim it down to? Wondering if it will work in my new D.K.
I was wondering the same thing Nick for my DK. 🤠
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 30, 2020, 06:30:47 am
By the way, if you had to disassemble another one, you better start restoring another 45 ;) :Dlol....I already put it back together, just how I am.
Post by: Nick on September 29, 2020, 10:23:22 pm
Post by: Nick on September 29, 2020, 10:22:33 pm
I’m getting a max of 2.845”
There is a chance the base’s hole for the heater could be enlarged to 3 - 1/16”, maybe even 3 - 1/8”, but that would be pushing it and as you say the heater would be trimmed down to just a thin wall as well...
Maybe I’ll take a chance and try to find an even smaller hot plate on ebay...
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 29, 2020, 10:09:45 pm
Hey Bruce @St Paul Steam, what were the dimensions of this new burner that you found? And what’s the smallest diameter you can trim it down to? Wondering if it will work in my new D.K.I had to disassemble another heating plate to know , here is the information the OD is 3 7/8" & the smallest (safest) it can be trimmed down to is 3 3/16" & that leaves a thin cast wall around the heating element. the heating element has a threaded post that can be used or removed (the cast heating plate is threaded for it)
Post by: Nick on September 29, 2020, 08:20:55 pm
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 04, 2020, 10:09:26 pm
I suppose everyone else knows but how big is the boiler and how long is a run with the old element?Most people probably don't know the actual boiler size , it's 3" x 3 .5" tall. The original 300w heater is more than adequate , but since they aren't available anymore this replacement heater is just one more option for non-functioning #45's , the max wattage has no bearing on the matter when we're talking about minimal voltage running...any #45 should be capable of the same 😊
Post by: Steam Technology on September 04, 2020, 05:58:57 pm
Post by: St Paul Steam on August 31, 2020, 05:21:45 am
Post by: St Paul Steam on August 30, 2020, 09:09:09 am
Nice work! What paint did you use to paint the boiler?I buy the paint from Walmart, here are the photo's of both the Blue & the green that I use for most bases, the blue is my favorite,
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200830_094236.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/a5ada053-5e88-4952-b4a0-5d6b97ea4a94)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200830_094222.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/6c7049e6-24a3-4b82-8e79-9e5c43147f29)
and the green
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200830_094305.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/8905200b-4ca9-41e9-a896-76ec379e2bf4)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200830_094318.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/9605b707-3b3a-49ec-974e-6442ed7aa5f8)
I had a little trepidation about using this paint for the #45 as the heating base gets so hot , so far the color has not changed with a 300W initial heat up , the paint gets a bit tacky but is not discoloring , hopefully with a few more heat/cooling cycles it will cure in hard.
Post by: classixs on August 30, 2020, 06:54:44 am
Post by: Belugawhaleman on August 30, 2020, 05:35:23 am
Post by: Steam Technology on August 29, 2020, 10:23:15 pm
The hotplate from a coffee filter machine might be a similsr size and only 300w might be a little lower heat.
Post by: krypto31337 on August 29, 2020, 09:35:27 pm
This reminds me I have a pretty nice vertical Jensen sitting in the attic which got the threads pulled pretty hard because the Ebay seller shipped with the whistle installed. :( I need to get that fixed and I might have to use a similar fix to the brass bushing to get working threads.
Post by: St Paul Steam on August 29, 2020, 09:02:58 pm
Very good find Bruce, these could get a lot of Jensen #45's steaming and operational again.That is my hope Jim , a metal cutting bandsaw is useful , but this could be done with a hacksaw or grinder to remove the 1/8" off the outside diameter of the hot plate.
Post by: Nick on August 29, 2020, 08:56:46 pm
Post by: Stoker on August 29, 2020, 08:51:17 pm
I may have to pick up a couple of those little hot plates ... one to save for if I ever need a new heater in my #45, and one for making a little coffee out in the shop ... could prove handy!!! ;c)
Post by: Jim on August 29, 2020, 08:26:58 pm
Post by: St Paul Steam on August 29, 2020, 08:19:15 pm
I believe I've found what may be a good replacement heater for the Jensen #45 candlestick steam engine.
here is a brass boiler Jensen #45 steam engine that I have completely restored. it came to me needing restored & had a non-functioning heater, I finally decided to see if I could come up with a modern replacement & I was fortunate to find something that worked quite well, here is the title to the little stove on E-bay right now "Portable 110V 500W Electric Mini Stove Hot Plate Multifunction Home Heater DIY" it was US $21.48 & was the least expensive I could find of this type. with a little modification this heater worked quite well ,the advertised watt was 500W, but my Digital Power Saving Energy Monitor Watt Amp Volt KWh Meter Electricity Analyzer say its right at 600W , you will need a voltage reducer /variac to be able to run your steam engine at a realistic speed. this #45 has a brass , dent free boiler & all the part were in good shape before I started the restoration. I use powdered (fine) graphite in the axle tube to see if that was slicker & gauld free...time will tell. it runs nice & slow @ 40V/75W & at that speed I expect it will run well over an hour.
If you have the time , please follow along ...
here is the new donor heating single burner electric stove , its called a YQ-105, they're probably all the same, just find the cheapest one you can.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_202555.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/8826b3ec-b522-47a6-a203-4eb2bf7f59f8)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_202619.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/b9926736-7440-4f23-8b9d-0cb458ef6f17)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_202636.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/7a2968f1-3fac-4eef-9579-12823e7f4e2b)
this is what your after
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_203526.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/9e025215-f307-4eed-8cf1-ebb13be2c0e1)
I trimmed about 1/4" off of it to fit , in hindsight i would only trim off about 1/8" so i could drill right into the cast iron lip & tap it 6/32" to accept the 3 bolts that hold the boiler onto the heater base.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_210252.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/b1a351ac-3a4b-4799-be24-9cb1115ebfea)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200828_210756.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/29fe51e5-ecfb-4b39-b9e2-0d0697c08923)
this step could be removed in the future as the 3 afore mentioned bolts hold it firmly in place from the topside.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_073126.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/5e28a534-7e90-4fb8-846b-5979d544ed27)
While I was at it, the (2) 5/16-24tpi ports in the top of the boiler were rather worn & 2 new brass bushings were made for a lifetime of robust use.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_115103.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/b7b89804-2799-461a-a18d-e52f7aa8d21c)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_120121.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/f2c9cba2-65ef-40e8-bc12-a53deb724143)
the heater now set in place
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_143123.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/6ddbafca-b78d-4dd0-852a-532412706403)
insulated in
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_150723.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/0efd2252-adb9-4866-8ef7-9b0a044f1d77)
A double layer for inside the base (this worked better than i thought it might)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_145753.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/5f58817b-0fab-4663-849f-c4e14d411370)
nearly finished.
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_165622.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/b8bcd365-6c08-4999-9c23-2e6de511743d)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20200829_154555.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/43fbb9d7-91ea-4cb6-9a50-0e7617dfcc77)
finished
https://youtu.be/REg_K1yvaOY