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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: classixs on November 07, 2020, 10:08:01 am

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Hero on December 19, 2020, 06:52:59 pm
That is strange and wonderful.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: oilfield_steam on December 19, 2020, 06:43:14 pm
Well done, Jan.  You got it running.  Seems like you built up a fair amount of steam on that run.  The opposed pistons are certainly interesting.  It might have been made in small batches, but certainly a production engine... you would think there would be some historical info on it somewhere. 
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: RedRyder on December 19, 2020, 06:32:36 pm
Hi Jan, Awesome that you got it to running condition! Well worth the effort.

Congrats on a very unique and very nice find.

Very well done!

Gil
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: St Paul Steam on December 19, 2020, 04:10:29 pm
Well now , would you just look at that...I have never seen quite the engine setup as that has, you got it running Jan  :) , it'll break in well I assume, well done that !
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: classixs on December 19, 2020, 04:00:03 pm
Well, been a while, and the engine naturally arrived several weeks ago.

However, the piston (there is just one, doubleacting oscillating piston) was really stuck...as in REALLY STUCK.
Had quite a few nearby´s of de-soldering the entire cylinder-setup, and drilling the leadplugged cylinderends, to be able to bang the piston out of there.
Fortunately i kept to the penetrating oils, and just a few days ago i sensed a slight move. A few taps with a small hammer and a screwdriver, and the piston was relatively free.
The all i had to do, was spend 15 minutes gnawing out a simple half-finished flywheel, and throw a standard Mamod burner under the boiler....and it was back in running condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh7t1WWow_U

Not a master machinist by far, but nonetheless i entirely blame the crooked crankshaft for the insane flywheel-wobble.
The way too heavy flywheel was intentional. Idea being that it would help it overcome the tight spots, and wear in properly again on its own, which it sort of did.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: txlabman on November 09, 2020, 01:37:11 pm
Interesting engine.

I look forward to seeing your restoration magic.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: St Paul Steam on November 08, 2020, 08:54:13 pm
Interesting find Jan ,I'm sure you'll get it put back together in good running order & I look forward to seeing it operating.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: tenniV11 on November 08, 2020, 10:04:01 am
It is a Ministry - I do not understand how it worked?
I think many parts are missing - not only the flywheel.
Want to see more of this little unknown "chi chi"
The only information of similar engines:

https://www.peters-toysteam.se/SwedishHistory/en/index.htm
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: classixs on November 08, 2020, 06:35:30 am
Thomas, it was/is located in Denmark.
Have seen others in pictures over the years, and all of those "stabled" up here as well.

My clear assumption is that it is of Danish origin, but had a slight hope that i was proven wrong...
Not that it diminishes its value to me at all if it´s Danish, but unfortunately very few (if any) of the Danish engines, has a confirmed manufacturer.
Danish engines mostly seem to be smaller batches, ordered from the bigger department stores, and primarely built during and just after the war, since Germany who normally supplied our needs for tin toys, was pretty much "out of business".
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: yussufhippo on November 08, 2020, 05:10:51 am
Looks... interesting?
Looking forward to seeing more of this. May I ask where it was located?
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Hero on November 07, 2020, 04:48:38 pm
Certainly unusual, but I have no idea what it can be from a Canadian perspective.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Jim on November 07, 2020, 03:24:48 pm
Not a clue, but interested Jan to see more pics when you receive it.
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Stoker on November 07, 2020, 12:40:47 pm
Haven't got a clue ..... but I like it!!!
Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Nick on November 07, 2020, 11:29:32 am
New one to me too... very interesting...  8)
Title: What is this?
Post by: classixs on November 07, 2020, 10:08:01 am
I just purchased this one, and am currently awaiting its arrival:

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It obviously is missing the flywheel, but assume it has 2 opposing pistons in the same casting, so i found the engine on its own interesting enough, to throw 20 hard earned bucks after it.
I assume it is a Danish made engine, but might well be wrong...perhaps some of you guys can guide me towards an ID?