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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: ShadetreeMotorcycle on January 31, 2021, 08:53:41 am
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Ha! Ha! Ha! Now that there's funny. He! He! He! Ah, Ah, Aaahh Choooo! Sniffle sniffle.
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Ha! Ha! Ha! I'm glad I got funny bone going.
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Ha! Ha! Ha! I'm glad I got funny bone going.
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Holly cow Jim, did you put water in the boiler or oil. It's blowing snot like it has a virus.
Put a mask on it. ;D ;D
LOL that cracked me up :) :) :)
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Holly cow Jim, did you put water in the boiler or oil. It's blowing snot like it has a virus.
Put a mask on it. ;D ;D
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Thanks Jim!...its not what I would call a decorative model, however the machinist side of me can appreciate the heavy cast base quality....later in the video you rev it wide open...some of the entry level models do not sound to good at High RPM....your #5 sounds JUST as happy revving as it does ticking over..a testament the what a solid metal base and good machine work can do! Thanks for sharing....I may up my offer as I want that empire water pump...something awful bad :o
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Here's one of my Jensen #5's that I have converted over to flame fired (with a Supa burner) I have since repaired the sight glass.
https://youtu.be/_BKT5X1TXUg
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For me I have 32 years machine shop experience...but very little electrical...so I tend to shy away from things I may not easily be able to repair...also the electric units tend to command a bit higher price, and I also enjoy the romance of open flame.
From what I have read with a little mod electronic unit Can have even finer control than a BIX burner unit....I understand the value in this....perhaps as the shows open up and I can chat with experienced steamers and the ins and outs of repairing electronic heated boilers....then I Will be comfortable making a purchase!
Speaking of electronic boilers...I made a low bid on a Jensen model #5 with electronic boiler! :o
I did not like that it was electronic but the cast metal base of the engine appealed to me...also it has an empire water pump accessory that I wanted....is the Jensen #5 a good engine? My bid was low as the sight Glass was gone and the boiler looked real ruff...
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Electric boiler steam engines for me have two major benefits. They allow me to enjoy running them when the house is shut up either with A/C in Summer or when the house is shut up in Winter with the fire on because they create no fumes.
I agree Jim
The biggest benefit for me is the control I get with a voltage reducer.
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Electric boiler steam engines for me have two major benefits. They allow me to enjoy running them when the house is shut up either with A/C in Summer or when the house is shut up in Winter with the fire on because they create no fumes.
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I have a NIB,NOS Wilesco D14 that I installed a 110V immersion rod heater in the boiler & added 1" pressure gauge I would sell if your interested, only fired to test my work $225 + shipping, a video is on my YouTube channel.
Thanks for the offer!....I am making investment in 2-3 sizes of BIX burners and pipe and valves to run them. Also I am afraid of old electronic heaters around metal boilers and water! :o
Your new equipment would be fine, but at this time I am trying to avoid electronic boilers...I know some folks really prefure them...
Not a problem
Jensen has been making them since 1932 & every electric water heater in homes work similar, I understand the argument though 😉👍
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I have a NIB,NOS Wilesco D14 that I installed a 110V immersion rod heater in the boiler & added 1" pressure gauge I would sell if your interested, only fired to test my work $225 + shipping, a video is on my YouTube channel.
Thanks for the offer!....I am making investment in 2-3 sizes of BIX burners and pipe and valves to run them. Also I am afraid of old electronic heaters around metal boilers and water! :o
Your new equipment would be fine, but at this time I am trying to avoid electronic boilers...I know some folks really prefure them...
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Don't forget to look out for Empire engines, as they are typically solid builds, many with fixed cylinders, and not uncommonly built as single action. B30 & B31 come to mind here.
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^^^That would be a hard deal to pass up ShadetreeMotorcycle!
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I have a NIB,NOS Wilesco D14 that I installed a 110V immersion rod heater in the boiler & added 1" pressure gauge I would sell if your interested, only fired to test my work $225 + shipping, a video is on my YouTube channel. "NOW SOLD"
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Beware, my friend, beware and repent!
It is still time to renounce and abstain!
Another nearly lost soul begging for guidance and help facing the temptations of the vile steamal sin but you, forces of darkness unleashed, recommend a Märklin 4097!
Which is good piece of advice, imho!
The real question, however, is, if you want to buy a steam engine of recent production date (Wilesco, Mamod or Jensen... = grey sin)
or if you would like to venture out into historic steam engines (Märklin, Doll, Schoenner... = pitch-dark tarry sin).
You can find smaller and simpler varieties of fixed cylinder engines (which are not necessarily double-acting...) by Bing or Falk or Falk-Bing which come relatively cheap...
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I am new to steam with a collection of 1 engine...soon to be 200 engines ;D
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Lol!....thanks Jim for the fix..a used D10 that I picked up for nearly pocket change showed up early today...so I am actually looking for #3....the D10 was a bit long in the tooth but a good cleaning improved it to quite respectable.
I did find the eccentric was loose and no longer running the slide valve...an easy fix but likely why it was taken out of service and sold on the cheap.
As I have so little invested I plan to modify it extensively!...to be continued....
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I am new to steam with a collection of 1 engine...soon to be 200 engines ;D
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That's for sure Jim. This is more fun than stamp collecting, right?
Yes Tommy, I'd rather be a steamatelic than a philatelic ;D
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I am new to steam with a collection of 1 engine...soon to be 200 engines ;D
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That's for sure Jim. This is more fun than stamp collecting, right?
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I am new to steam with a collection of 1 engine...soon to be 200 engines ;D
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I have a Jensen 35, it's overhead but it's a single acting engine. I usually call single acting engines
spitters, cause they do. There is one by Wilesco called the D14, they look like this,
https://www.ministeam.com/acatalog/Wilesco-D14-Steam-Engine-WI_D_14.html#SID=234
Some times they show up on Ebay with a roof over it and four power tools all set up as a work station.
I think those are called D141 Work Station.
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I agree with the Märklin 4095’s and 4097’s, BUT some of those also suffer from zinc pest (mostly the older, colorful ones). Same goes with the dynamo covers on the newer ones.
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I would suggest to buy a Maerklin Mod. 4097 Size 5 - 6 - 7
these engines are not too high in price range and run excellent.
The money you spend is only parked and you can sell them easy.
Dont go for Fleischmann because the suffer under Zinc corrosion -
not all but many...
Jensen is also a good advice!
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Jan brings up a good point...I don't mind a larger base and boiler!
I am looking for a diminutive (small) main flywheel/cyl/rod assembly.
Another thought...I specified "double acting" but I would not mind if the piston is only steam powered in one direction, it "seems" like many small Ocillator type engines are single acting...it is the "Ocillator" style I am avoiding right now...I may collect them in the future as I become more knowledgeable about our hobby, but for now I prefure the steam cyl bore to remain fixed and not wobble as the piston travels thru it...I am not sure if there are any fixed cyl type that only power stroke one direction and let's the flywheel carry it back to next power stoke...put I suppose it is a possibility?
So diminutive flywheel/cyl/rod and quality is what I seek...hope this helps! I am going to go look at Jensen 35 now...I don't prefure boiler mount...but If I can remove assembly and remount on base...that is fine...I do enjoy modify things and personalize to my own taste, as long as it is not a high value collectors item!
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If your main goal is small footprint and doubleacting, you will have a hard time neglecting a Jensen 35.
They are VERY nice strong runners, and a great boon in their favour, is that they are plentiful enough to be bought for "pocketchange", if willing to wait for the right one on Ebay.
It is an overtype, but that wouldn´t make it a vertical...which dictates that it must be horisontal then ;D
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I am new to steam with a collection of 1 engine...soon to be 2 engines ;D
What inspired this post is I have never yet been to a Model steam show, so I am largely un aware of the models no longer produced...I am most familiar with Wilesco and still learning about Jensen offerings.
I just recently learned of the Fleishmann brand due to a post by oilfield_steam! I want a 125/4 and possibly one of there larger models.
So the purpose of This thread....I noticed when model steam engines get really small they tend to be Ocillators and single acting, I prefure double acting, so I am wondering if there is a model out there perhaps Wilesco D10 size or smaller but nicer than a D10??