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Builds, Repairs, Show Your Machines! => Collections & Pictures => Topic started by: classixs on May 06, 2021, 02:41:45 pm
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Very nice, Jan.
I am (also) no fan of Wilescos at all - but I like the non nickel-plated ones. The old cylinders are really nice!
dito
Arnold :D
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Very nice, Jan.
I am (also) no fan of Wilescos at all - but I like the non nickel-plated ones. The old cylinders are really nice!
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Is the flywheel on the 2nd generation larger in diameter than on the 1st?
Yes, the 2nd. Gen, flywheel is quite a bit larger in diameter.
1st. gen. approx. 2 3/4" and 2nd. gen approx. 3 1/16".
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I have always enjoyed firing up any Wilesco I own, though they are a pain to work on compared to Jensen & of lighter build quality.
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NICE!!!
I have a few of the older Wilesco engines as well, the D16 being among my favorites, but really nothing like a collection, though I still seem to prefer the Fleischmann engines of about the same era, of which I do have a modest assemblage.
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Hi Jan, you do really good collecting Wilesco's for not collecting them. I looked back to the beginning
of this post and noticed the differences between the 1st generation and the newer ones. Brass boiler, no
crosshead guide, smooth cylinder shroud, and a silver exhaust drip pan (not red). Those I noticed back
when you first started the post way back when.
Now when you put the first generation and the second end to end. Some thing else caught my eye so a
measurement of the screen says yes to what I see. Only you can confirm it.
Is the flywheel on the 2nd generation larger in diameter than on the 1st?
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Comparison of 1st. and 2nd. generation.
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...and another snuck in (https://officeofsteamforum.createaforum.com/Smileys/users/officeofsteamforum/rolleyes.gif)
Another of the very early 1950s D16s...
Still non-nickleplated brass, but now with the smooth pinstriped grey base, and the faux crosshead guide added.
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Had more of them out in the open many years ago, but felt people started to roll their eyes when visiting...those poor savage heathens ;D
Be the main character. live for yourself not for others. To display and to dust is the question
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Hi Jan, That is a nice early Wilesco.!
Also, while you have been on the hunt you have built a great Jensen collection!
This is not an easy feat given most Jensen sources are a long way from you.
Gil
What is equally amazing is that Jan also has a truly enviable Solar Engines of Phoenix Arizona collection, the source of which he is even further removed from in time and space.
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Hi Jan, That is a nice early Wilesco.!
Also, while you have been on the hunt you have built a great Jensen collection!
This is not an easy feat given most Jensen sources are a long way from you.
Gil
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I want to find a very early D4, likely 1950-1951 with the wrinkle gray base, they seem to have an unusual chimney mount as well? This is the only one I have ever seen, so I am not sure if it is correct. It would have came with the early style burner tray like Jan has.
Very doubtful that one of those will turn up...
I have those pictures on record too, and this is the only one i have seen as well.
I have personally seen quite a few very early wrinkle paint models, and none of them have had that smooth firebox and simple smokestack support.
I can only assume that this D4 is a prototype, or a part of a very small first batch, from just before the bricked coppersheets was introduced.
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Thanks guys :)
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I want to find a very early D4, likely 1950-1951 with the wrinkle gray base, they seem to have an unusual chimney mount as well? This is the only one I have ever seen, so I am not sure if it is correct. It would have came with the early style burner tray like Jan has.
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Those are good ones. Never say never.
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Yup , your a collector 😀 ,looks like a runner , good luck with it.
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Just managed to bag another one of the very earliest Wilesco models "locally" 8)
This time a D8...
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Had more of them out in the open many years ago, but felt people started to roll their eyes when visiting...those poor savage heathens ;D
Fools, they know not, what they miss.
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Tommy, i have a single glass cabinet for display in the living room, which holds just 6-8 medium sized engines.
The rest is kept in storage in a dedicated room upstairs, with far the most being stacked by brand in clear plastic boxes, to avoid having to clean the entire collecton every year.
Had more of them out in the open many years ago, but felt people started to roll their eyes when visiting...those poor savage heathens ;D
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Box them up? You don't leave them out for display in your steam room/shed/area?
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Thanks guys :)
I am as mentioned very pleased with these, and particularly the D16, which is extremely rare in this version.
To prep them for longterm storage, the both of them has been run on air for a while, to dry out any water in the steamline and engines, and is right now sitting for a few days with aquarium/fishtank airpumps ventilating the boilers, to ensure theyīre completely dry internally before i box them up.
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Thanks for the video Jan 8)
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Nice to see the machine running.
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She runs very nicely Jan, there are a few subtle differences that I'm starting to pick up on (thanks to you)
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Just put up a movie of each of my oldie testruns yesterday.
First the D5 here:
https://youtu.be/218ZLbz_j60
...and the D16 here:
https://youtu.be/o10_xhDG3c0
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Bruce, i think weīve gone through similar emotions when it comes to Wilesco 8)
Theyīre common thin tin toys, which seems "cheaply" built in certain areas compared to some others, but every brand has an Achilles heel somewhere.
Theyīve certainly earned their right to a place in history, if for nothing else, than being the most common "entry brand" worldwide during the last 50 years...at least.
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You technically have a "Wilesco" collection now 😆👍
I technically did before as well, just donīt pay them all that much attention ;D
My first engine was a Wilesco D22 (still have it) got turned on to Jensen's and they have been my mainstay ever since....BUT , I have found a new appreciation for them (Wilesco's) and believe they have earned a place on my shelves as well. And you my dear friend Jan have taught me quite a lot about them.
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That's great news that its arrived in good condition Jan.
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Thanks guys, it is lovely :)
After getting the minor issues solved, with steamvalve and cylindervalve completely frozen in plaze from decades of inactivity, it was tested on air to ensure its running capability.
Since the airtest was positive, i filled it up with water, and steamed it...expecting water spewing from both boilerends.
Quite pleased to find that the rather serious looking dezinc on the boiler, appearently is clogged with lime or similar, as no leaks occured and it performed flawlessly.
Will upload a movie at some point, as i did film the run, since it quite possibly will be the only one it gets here 8)
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Hello Jan,
now I am annoyed that I have not bid.
Happy you didnīt, as you most likely wouldnīt have done much but serve the seller.
I wanted this, which was reflected in the max-bid i typed in...but fortunately didnīt reach even closely.
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You technically have a "Wilesco" collection now 😆👍
I technically did before as well, just donīt pay them all that much attention ;D
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Hello Jan,
now I am annoyed that I have not bid.
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You technically have a "Wilesco" collection now 😆👍
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Definitely worth adding to the collection. Great shape, love it.
Can't wait for the "Film at 11".
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Wonderful, it looks Great Jan.
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Some good news for once...
The seller came through as promised, and the engine arrived EXTREMELY well packed yesterday, in the exact same condition as purchased...felt real good trying that for a change.
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I had a relatively big collection of Wilescos until i discovered Jensen, and during the years it took to accumulate them, someone as anal as i is bound to pick up a bit of info now and then ;D
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Thanks Jan, that's really good information from someone who doesn't collect or supposedly
know much about Wilescos. ;)
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Thanks Tommy!
If going solely by the base, an engine would be made somewhere inbetween 1950-55, if these corners were used.
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Hey Jan, that is a sweat one. Does the corners of the base suggest an age for it. They're not held together
with those crimped on pieces, they're spot welded with an angle piece. I've seen that before on a D28.
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Thanks guys :)
Seller informed me, that it also has what appears to be the original D16 tagged but unprinted box.
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Well done Jan! Very neat early Wilesco 8)
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I am looking forward to seeing it once it arrives Jan.
Congratulations.
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...even has the funnel.
And more importantly the burner, which often is missing on our engines.
Itīs almost impossible to hunt down a pre-patent burner.
Hereīs the one from the D5:
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Very nice Jan, I like the way the corners on the base are held together. Much stronger.
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That's a great super early model Jan from not long after WWII ended, even has the funnel.
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Thanks guys :)
It is a 1950-51 model, all depending on the introduction date of the D16 model.
The non-nickeled brass, and wrinkled paint on the bases, was solely used on the very earliest engines.
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Looks good to me, how old do you estimate it to be Jan ?
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Jan .... who are you trying to fool .... yourself apparently. ;c)
Clearly you ARE a Wilesco collector, but a very discriminating one who seems only interested in earliest models.
Looks like it is in amazingly good condition from here .... well done!
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Hello Jan,
I almost bid because it is a very well preserved very old Wilesco. But then I left it. Congratulations on your success. An enrichment for every collection.
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I know, iīve said it before...I DON`T COLLECT WILESCO!!! ::)
However, appearently a few select models can stir an interest still...
Donīt know whether or not i did good, as it is "just a Wilesco" after all.
But as this is the earliest version, and the most complete well preserved example of these iīve ever seen, i decided to bite the bullet, and enter a serious max-bid via AuctionStealer.
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Have communicated with the seller both during and after the auction, and it would appear that even the original box is there as well.
The only real flaw iīve found, is some dezink at the front of the boiler, but fingers crossed that it isnīt more than can be soldered up.
Now for the long wait, hoping and praying that it isnīt Ace Ventura who gets to deliver this one.
Once it gets here, it should find good company in this little D5:
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