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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: ShadetreeMotorcycle on May 14, 2021, 12:45:52 pm
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Hi Dennis,
Thank you for the detailed description of the setup and function. I can now get a better picture.
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A ball bearing as a non return valve and a piston with holes and a round T shaped valve that sits inside the piston
Dennis, I am interested in pictures of the piston of the pump. Actually of the whole inner workings. I have followed your report on the construction of the Pericaud, but I have not seen detailed pictures of the piston and the non-return device. Or did something pass me by? My old head is a bit sloppy sometimes. ;D
The non return valve is a ball bearing at the bottom 0f the column that rest in a bevel edged hole in the base .
The piston is hollow with 5 holes in the head of it.
1 is in the center and 4 around that .
A T shaped piece .( the leg is a loose fit in the center hole .
The top of the T is a disc that covers the other four holes .)
The T drops in to the piston and moves up when the piston goes down thus allowing water through
The piston and around the piston rod and when the piston comes up the T valve (seals?? ) the four holes .
The piston rod connects to the piston via a wrist pin allowing movement .
I will chicken scratch some pictures later
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Pump #3 with (cracked base) sold for $187.50 plus shipping. I had no idea the market was this Hot on these!
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Solder won´t stick...
But if screwed tightly down to a neat wooden base, forcing the broken "leg" back in place (should it break, it can be glued back with JB Weld), it wouldn´t worry me much, as i doesn´t look like dezinc to me, more like abuse.
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One sold recently (Twice) on 14 May and again on 22 May but I see it re-listed again, how many times can one item be sold? Methinks something fishy going on here....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194112379040?hash=item2d31ffd8a0:g:59gAAOSwms9glupT
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194123550940?hash=item2d32aa50dc:g:zVwAAOSwnEpgnC~F
These are different pieces, check out the paint ;) (and I believe one is listed as cracked in the base)
Seller even lists them as #2 #3
Nick is absolutely correct!
Pump#1: now lives at my house and sold for $102 plus shipping ;)
Pump#2: sold for $270 plus shipping.
Pump#3: currently up for auction has a crack in the base. Could this be repaired with Solder or a better method? I am not even sure Solder would stick?
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One sold recently (Twice) on 14 May and again on 22 May but I see it re-listed again, how many times can one item be sold? Methinks something fishy going on here....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194112379040?hash=item2d31ffd8a0:g:59gAAOSwms9glupT
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194123550940?hash=item2d32aa50dc:g:zVwAAOSwnEpgnC~F
These are different pieces, check out the paint ;) (and I believe one is listed as cracked in the base)
Seller even lists them as #2 #3
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One sold recently (Twice) on 14 May and again on 22 May but I see it re-listed again, how many times can one item be sold? Methinks something fishy going on here....
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194112379040?hash=item2d31ffd8a0:g:59gAAOSwms9glupT
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194123550940?hash=item2d32aa50dc:g:zVwAAOSwnEpgnC~F
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A ball bearing as a non return valve and a piston with holes and a round T shaped valve that sits inside the piston
Dennis, I am interested in pictures of the piston of the pump. Actually of the whole inner workings. I have followed your report on the construction of the Pericaud, but I have not seen detailed pictures of the piston and the non-return device. Or did something pass me by? My old head is a bit sloppy sometimes. ;D
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A ball bearing as a non return valve and a piston with holes and a round T shaped valve that sits inside the piston
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No leather piston or seal, just a clack-valve in the piston.
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I suspect the piston seal(s) were oiled leather, and may well be long gone or petrified. I’m thinking that like a hand pump, once you get the cylinder bore nice and slick, it wouldn’t take much to fabricate seals from polyethylene. My dad rebuilt a well pump and cut seals out of cool whip bowl lids.
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WOW!....I was considering bidding on this today, as it is nicer condition than mine.
The bid went all the way to $281.10 with shipping!.....Now just cleaning Mine up sounds like a better plan :)
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Thank you for that information
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Thank you for the detailed information.
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Now i am confused ( as per usual )
Are they Pericaud or Pericault
As i see both names used .
Cheers
Dennis
Hi,
this "POMPE" was sold by PERICAUD Paris/F.
If you see PERICAULT its a misspelling...
Originallly it was offered by PASSEMAN & CIE, Paris/F.
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After then PERICAUD & PASSEMAN cooperated and firmed P.P. Paris/F.
You will also find this pump listed in several french warehouse catalogs like Mestre et Blatge, MANUFRANCE, OCEL, Le Samaritaine, Bazar l'Hotel de Ville and others.
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Good catch Ben , I had this on my watch list & told myself (you have a couple of hours till it ends) had I remembered...it may have been coming to St. Paul...lol, happy for you Ben.
Thanks Bruce! you will probably get the next one...Unless it is the "oval tub" variety like one of Jan's....I might have to bid on that to ;D
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Sorry, misspelled in my post above, it´s "Péricaud" 8)
I fixed it in my thread title to try keeping confusion to bare minimum...I think I could possibly pronounce Péricaud better any way....lol
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Good catch Ben , I had this on my watch list & told myself (you have a couple of hours till it ends) had I remembered...it may have been coming to St. Paul...lol, happy for you Ben.
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Sorry, misspelled in my post above, it´s "Péricaud" 8)
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Now i am confused ( as per usual )
Are they Pericaud or Pericault
As i see both names used .
A bit Like Weldon/ Monarch ( a Aussie engine )
And SEL / Merit
But at least Weldon/ Monarch have a difference a Safety Valve
Cheers
Dennis
I have the same question as Dennis!
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Now i am confused ( as per usual )
Are they Pericaud or Pericault
As i see both names used .
A bit Like Weldon/ Monarch ( a Aussie engine )
And SEL / Merit
But at least Weldon/ Monarch have a difference a Safety Valve
Cheers
Dennis
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Yours have the original basin Ben, the "swim pool" is a mod as far as i can tell :)
Have no idea of exact value these days, but they usually fetch a decent price, as they´re quite popular.
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Wow! Great videos guys! It appears mine is the smaller water basin like Jan's.
Txlabman has the swim pool size, seems everything IS bigger in Texas!
What might the approx market value be on my pump?.....I fear I paid to much, but I wanted it something awful bad ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR1IjisN7OE
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https://youtu.be/VsprnqQLd0A
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It is Pericault, and it will pump water (as long as the piston/valve is in there).
Nice addition, congratulations Ben!!!
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Just won this, I am hopeful it works or that I can get it pumping water. Any guess as to the year built or maker? I thought it looks a lot like Péricaud?
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