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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: KY Steam on May 29, 2021, 09:54:30 am
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Yes, this is his first “oscillator” steam engine.
Not entirely true ;)
These were made around 2000, according to Roger "Indianarog" who was the owner of both.
The first a one-of prototype sporting Karsten´s signature "ball boiler", the second a productionmodel with a larger vertical boiler.
Pics from Rog´s "Loved but gone" section found here: https://www.indianarog.com/loved-but-gone
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Another great creation by a true master craftsmen. I have bought several of his engines and his wonderful ferris wheel. Surprised i didn,t get an email about this new one. Oh well, i can enjoy these posts. Thanks for posting
Crazydoug
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I recieved an email from Karsten in March about his making a new steam plant named Saxonia with an oscillating cylinder rather than his turbine powered ones . He was going to limit them to 20 total . I ordered one but since March have not heard from Karsten nor is he answering emails . Has else heard from him or seen a Saxoia that has been built ?
@KY Steam any news on your Saxonia?
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Yes, this is his first “oscillator” steam engine.
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Looks quite impressive. Is this the first "cylinder engine" by Karsten Gintschel? I have only seen turbines from his workshop, so far.
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Jan,
Many thanks for your recommendations and the video. This is really useful information; particularly pulling out the piston assembly to add a drop of oil.
Regards,
Gavin
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That is a beauty. How can someone order one of these fine engines? It would look great next to my Karsten Steam Ball.
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The Saxonia is a pretty simple oscillator, so as long as you lube the cylinder contact points and the bearings (if those aren´t OilLite or closed rollerbearings) all is good.
Loads of arguments and opinions regarding lubrication, but unless you intend to run it for hours every day, it will hold up for the rest of your life with very little oiling.
It is good practice to have some oil internally on the cylinderwalls as well, and some usually can be sucked in on an oscillator like this via the exhaust, but going by the amount of older engines here, i feel that the wet steam in there under normal conditions of use, is enough to avoid any heavy wear on those parts.
I´d suggest getting a small bottle of Wilesco steamoil, if you just intend to steam it occasionally (once the initial interest to do so wears off).
It´ll last you a long time, since you only need a few drops with each filling of the boiler.
Loads of prepping movies out there, but since i had it on the bench for cleaning anyway, i just made this little "tutorial" of how i do on this type of engine.
https://youtu.be/MlX6ORpZrEs
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Ola, I’ve run the Saxonia this evening with 180ml water in the boiler and 50ml of ethanol. The steam engine ran for around 10 minutes before the burners went out and after cooling down; there was 60ml water left in the boiler and so I I’ll continue to run it with these volumes. I have one question for you; unlike a turbine where you can run without oil, a reciprocating steam engine needs lubricating with steam oil and I can find no provision to add any. Is this a subject or gave covered with Karsten?
Regards,
Gavin
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Hi Ola,
Many thanks for the update on the Saxonia and confirming that there are no instructions. I will follow your tips and proceed with caution; if I hear back from Karsten re. instructions, I will let you know on via this post.
Cheers, Gavin
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Hi Gavin.
It is an easy question to answer:
The Saxonia did not come with instructions !
I dont believ I had any instructions with any of Karstens models (A Tornado plant and and lots of advanced accessories).
That said; I think it is fair that you get instructions, if you feel for that.If you have reached out to Karsten for this; give it some days. How ever; you might have to send him once more. Thats how it is.
Investing in the Saxonia; I guess you have experience with model-steamengines ?
Its pritty much the same procedures as firing up a standard oscilating Wilesco/ Jensenmodel. Fill water in boiler, ( not all up to the top). Oil moving parts/oscilating cylinder and fill the burner with quality spirit/alcohol.Adjust the hight/level of the "wool" in the burner-ports. Light up & insert.
If you get instructions from Karsten; please let us know :-)
Good luck ! :-)
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Thank you both for my welcome and thanks Nick, for reaching out to Ola
Regards,
Gavin
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My Saxonia #8 arrived today and very excited to see it run. However, I cannot find the instruction sheet and so would any current owners of this amazing machine be able to post a pdf copy on the site. I have reached out to Karsten as well and so I’m hedging my bets as I would like to run the machine tonight. Many thanks and regards, Gavin
Welcome to the forum, I will tag Ola to get his attention ;) @bamsefar1
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My Saxonia #8 arrived today and very excited to see it run. However, I cannot find the instruction sheet and so would any current owners of this amazing machine be able to post a pdf copy on the site. I have reached out to Karsten as well and so I’m hedging my bets as I would like to run the machine tonight. Many thanks and regards, Gavin
Congratulations Gavin , greetings and warm welcome to the forum.
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My Saxonia #8 arrived today and very excited to see it run. However, I cannot find the instruction sheet and so would any current owners of this amazing machine be able to post a pdf copy on the site. I have reached out to Karsten as well and so I’m hedging my bets as I would like to run the machine tonight. Many thanks and regards, Gavin
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I am happy you like its appearance, guys :-)
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Well Done Ola! Thank you for all the extra pictures 8)
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Fabulous plant Ola , I very much like it.
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Over the years, I have ordered the Tornado-turbineplant and a number of accessorie-models that goes with the Tornado. And late wintertime; the Saxonia.
At time of earlier orders; none of my models have been "in stock". They have been manufactured after time of order.
So waiting 8-12 -15 weeks is to expected in my experience. "All things come to those who wait" :-)
To those who not are familiar to Karsten Gintschel; he is an gifted & inventive artisan with his own distinct art-expression.
The detail-quality of finish, design and functionality is premium. So if you like his creations or not is more a question of personal taste & preferences.
I got my Saxonia yesterday.
It looks absolutely marvelous ! There are so many details to appreciate ! (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
I hope you will post a video of it running on steam. 🙏
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I know you also appreciate Karstens creations very much, Jan :-)
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A very nice looking plant, congrats Ola!
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Wow, a really great machine. Mr. Gintschel has once again outdone himself.
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Over the years, I have ordered the Tornado-turbineplant and a number of accessorie-models that goes with the Tornado. And late wintertime; the Saxonia.
At time of earlier orders; none of my models have been "in stock". They have been manufactured after time of order.
So waiting 8-12 -15 weeks is to expected in my experience. "All things come to those who wait" :-)
To those who not are familiar to Karsten Gintschel; he is an gifted & inventive artisan with his own distinct art-expression.
The detail-quality of finish, design and functionality is premium. So if you like his creations or not is more a question of personal taste & preferences.
I got my Saxonia yesterday.
It looks absolutely marvelous ! There are so many details to appreciate ![attachimg=25][attachimg=25]
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Also got the message back in March but I passed on it, so haven’t been in any recent contact with Karsten
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Photo of Saxonia [attachimg=1]
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I recieved an email from Karsten in March about his making a new steam plant named Saxonia with an oscillating cylinder rather than his turbine powered ones . He was going to limit them to 20 total . I ordered one but since March have not heard from Karsten nor is he answering emails . Has else heard from him or seen a Saxoia that has been built ?