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Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 17, 2021, 01:51:26 pm
Rope tensioner. Rope was cheaper than leather belting and didn't have to be re-laced because of stretching. The tensioner could accommodate a lot of stretch. Of course, you needed someone who could make a 10 foot long splice in the rope. A Navy Chief Boatswain's Mate could. One rope drive that I have seen drove a large sawmill in Mississippi. Close to the rope was hanging a wire connected to a cow bell. If the rope started to fray, the frayed piece would hit the wire and ring the bell. Then the Engineer would know there was a problem.
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: SeeSteam on September 16, 2021, 08:21:01 pm
Is all that complexity simply for belt tension or is it a torque multiplier some how?

Intrigued!
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2021, 06:54:04 pm
Thank you, Jim. That was very helpful. I posted the pic of the Rollag rope drive. We used to have a factory here in Milwaukee that had a rope drive that powered all four floors of machinery. A large corliss engine ran the mill, belted to the rope drive with a leather belt.  I got to see a sawmill powered by a rope drive in Alabama. It was conventional, with the rope wheel being the twin cylinder engine's flywheel. I have a video of it and have to dig it out to look at it again.  Brad
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Quickj on September 16, 2021, 06:43:21 pm
Here is the scan from the catalog.  The engine at Rollag was the inspiration for the Tiny Power model.

None of these engines are mine.  I just took pictures of them sometime in the last 20 years.  I will have to look through my Rollag Photos and see if I have any pictures of that one.

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Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2021, 06:25:06 pm
Here is the rope drive at the Rollag, MN engine show.
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2021, 06:10:48 pm
One you built on the Stuart Turner #9. Is the other an Elmer engine and rope drive? How difficult was it to splice the rope?Yes, I would love to see the catalog write up. I have 3 Tiny Power catalogs but all are too old to have this drive in them.  Brad
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Quickj on September 16, 2021, 05:56:05 pm
I posted them above,  I also have a couple of Tiny Power catalogs with a picture and a write up about the rope drive that I can scan if you would like.
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2021, 03:40:13 pm
Thank you, I would love to see them.  Brad
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Quickj on September 16, 2021, 03:36:52 pm
I have a few pictures of Rope Drive engines in my archives.  I can dig up and post if that would be helpful.

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Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: RedRyder on September 16, 2021, 12:45:13 pm
O-ring material should work well.
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 16, 2021, 10:55:15 am
Thank you, Gil. The pictures really help when I recreate the drive. I see that you used round belting instead of twine. How did you glue the ends together? I was thinking of using O-ring material and using the O-ring glue.  Brad
Title: Re: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: RedRyder on September 16, 2021, 10:39:54 am
I had one 15 years ago. It was usually built on a Tint Power Ajax engine.
Mine had the more massive Ajax flywheel mounted to a Stuart #9.

I don't have any drawings but I saved photos of it.

Enjoy,

Gil


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Title: Tiny Power Rope Drive Kit
Post by: Brad on September 14, 2021, 12:52:15 pm
I am looking for information, drawings or an example of the rope drive kit for model engines made by Tiny Power, years ago.