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Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Steamandoil (Tim) on April 03, 2019, 07:26:19 am
Ok ok I’m good with air. Let’s see some engines running!
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Jim on April 02, 2019, 10:56:37 pm
Thanks all, appreciated the replies.

Now that I have my you beaut air setup in my workshop (why I didn't set it up better years ago beats me) I have been running and fine tuning lots of engine.


Its a LOT easier using air than burning ones fingers continuously using steam :) :) :)

So yes, I might be posting up some engines running on air now and again :)
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Weedensteam on April 02, 2019, 10:55:02 am
I test engines on air, and usually test them later on steam as well when I know all the connections etc. are intact.

As for watching a video of an engine run it really doesn't matter to me, the mechanics work the same, flywheels wobble just as much. :)
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: txlabman on April 02, 2019, 10:49:08 am
I agree Pete!
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Pete the steam on April 02, 2019, 10:47:19 am
I think I will get this put on a T-Shirt!

Should be the forum motto Charlie.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: txlabman on April 02, 2019, 10:42:51 am
to "air" is human....but to "steam" is divine....lol

I think I will get this put on a T-Shirt!
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Pete the steam on April 02, 2019, 10:09:07 am
Do I like watching engines “run” on air?

No, I prefer to watch them “walk” on water ;)

Ok... I’ll get me coat with Pete ;)  :D :D

I'll get it for you mate
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Hero on April 02, 2019, 10:04:14 am
Air is convenient, and the only option at many shows these days.

Steam is more fun, though....
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: classixs on April 02, 2019, 08:06:23 am
Air is fine ... Steam is better!!!

Agree completely (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Swift Fox on April 02, 2019, 07:30:53 am
I have to say i much prefer steam to air. However air is useful when running in or testing, however the true test will always be under live steam.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: RedRyder on April 02, 2019, 07:05:47 am
Steam engines are a most elegant form of motive power and to me this rings true on steam and air. I also like running them slowly.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: jkbixby on April 02, 2019, 06:25:20 am
to "air" is human....but to "steam" is divine....lol

Well said - reminds me of Odgen Nash!
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: MrandMrsferrysteam on April 02, 2019, 05:01:57 am
I often run them on air, as long as you put a drop of lubricating oil (not steam oil) down the intake it's ok..... :)

          Allan.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Postie Roy on April 02, 2019, 03:40:17 am
I prefer to run on steam it has that sound and smell you don't get with air but saying that air does a good job if you don't want the mess of clearing up.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Nick on April 01, 2019, 11:30:57 pm
Do I like watching engines “run” on air?

No, I prefer to watch them “walk” on water ;)

Ok... I’ll get me coat with Pete ;)  :D :D
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: txlabman on April 01, 2019, 09:37:48 pm
I run them both on air and steam. 

Doesn’t bother me either way.

To each his own......
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Scorpion2nz on April 01, 2019, 09:18:07 pm
Air is for testing
Steam is the real deal .
And in my opinion any fool can make a engine that runs on air .
It is not a steam engine untill it has run on steam .
And while we are at it i do not like those videos of slow motion done digitally.
If you want to show a engine running slow do it properly in real time on steam.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Jim on April 01, 2019, 09:05:53 pm
to "air" is human....but to "steam" is divine....lol
I like that saying Bruce :)
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: St Paul Steam on April 01, 2019, 09:04:27 pm
Air is fine ... Steam is better!!!
to "air" is human....but to "steam" is divine....lol
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Steamandoil (Tim) on April 01, 2019, 07:32:16 pm
I guess I'm of the same opinion as most of the folks I read here.  Steam is really what these engine were built to run on and there is something about having the whole system running that brings a smile to my face.  That being said, air is easier, quicker to set up and take down, and safer when little ones are around.


A good point.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: SlowArrow on April 01, 2019, 06:09:18 pm
I guess I'm of the same opinion as most of the folks I read here.  Steam is really what these engine were built to run on and there is something about having the whole system running that brings a smile to my face.  That being said, air is easier, quicker to set up and take down, and safer when little ones are around.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Steamandoil (Tim) on April 01, 2019, 11:31:02 am
Running on air is better than not running at all. Steam is so much more dynamic. Better sound, much more power, a little element of risk. Steam makes better pictures and video. So I guess I’m all steam but big engines on air is always good enough.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: komet163b on April 01, 2019, 10:57:03 am
  I run on air when fixing/testing or for a quick
show-off, but really, it is not as satisfying as
getting a persnickety burner and engine to
run like they should.  I will say this, I steamup
my electrics more often than my burners.
Steamed 3 empires last night - I was a bit down
so I steamed 'em up until the blues went away.

Wayne
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Dr.Rev.DelmarMacReady on April 01, 2019, 09:42:55 am
I prefer steam, but air is preferable over not running at all!

Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Stoker on April 01, 2019, 09:33:22 am
Air is fine ... Steam is better!!!
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: jkbixby on April 01, 2019, 08:55:21 am
If I would get off my dead rear end and work on some projects I would run more on steam but for now air is an easier option - they're made to run on steam but air works okay for me.
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: IndianaRog on April 01, 2019, 07:27:17 am
Jim, I use air when I want to run cast iron cylinder engines like several Stuarts.  A few of my Stuarts do not have drain valves on the cylinders, so I feel better running air vs. leave moisture for rust to set in.  Also, it's a good option as a test bed.  BUT, by and large most of my engines do get steamed if they have brass/bronze cylinders.

Rog
Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: steamtoys (Ron) on April 01, 2019, 06:22:00 am
Jim:  I may seem a little odd but I run my true
antique engines on air only and not for extended
periods. I do have several Mamod and Wiilesco
engines that I can Steam. Old Engines with brass
boilers can present dangerous problems.   Ron  - steamtoys
 
 















































































































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Title: Re: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: St Paul Steam on April 01, 2019, 05:47:40 am
Out of convenience I run them on air often , doesn't bother me either way.
Title: Do you like seeing engines run on air?
Post by: Jim on March 31, 2019, 10:58:16 pm
Just out of curiosity do you like seeing engines run on air?