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Here's an idea for you Bruce. Take the engine from a Jensen 70 or similar, make it horizontal
and low. Replace the spoked flywheel with a small thick marine style wheel. That'll keep the
height and length down. Should run with that mass spinning.
I like this more all the time Tommy , I have all the parts 🙃👍
Yes you do Bruce. You have the parts, the tools and know how. With your lathe and a hunk
of brass bar stock, you can make the flywheel to fit and look anyway you like.
With the way you like to improve upon things, I can see it now. Real bearings, everything
polished up, painted and shiny. Just do it! ;)
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Here's an idea for you Bruce. Take the engine from a Jensen 70 or similar, make it horizontal
and low. Replace the spoked flywheel with a small thick marine style wheel. That'll keep the
height and length down. Should run with that mass spinning.
I like this more all the time Tommy , I have all the parts 🙃👍
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Popcorn or peanut roasting stand?
Neither 😄
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I really like the Bengs engine Arnold presented, and would buy a ready to run model. Still looking...
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Re::you are aware that an engine with a .9" flywheel would need to be pretty will seasoned to run"
I am aware.
My project would not do justice to a wonderfully presented rendition of a miniature model steam engine such as Georges 😔
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Bruce, here is another one that might fit the bill.
Built by George Britnell. Maybe you could talk him out of it?
Gil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn4t5bsMXyQ
George's engine would be lovely (all his creations are) but it appears to be high revving with a very high stall.
Keep in mind that George's engine is fairly new at this filming and not likely broken in yet. A good break-in and a small work load would likely allow for slower running. That said, you are aware that an engine with a .9" flywheel would need to be pretty will seasoned to run slowly.
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Popcorn or peanut roasting stand?
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Ah, its all as clear as mud now 😂
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Are we going to see a miniature SPS popcorn wagon?? ;D ;D
I had the same thought!
well no ,not a Popcorn wagon (yet) I was afraid I might have led some of you to that thought when I mentioned what type of small engine I was seeking.
here is a picture of the project so I can dispel some of the speculation out there ;)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/z440/bruceang1/20220405_220246.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/bruceang1/p/8a4c7a39-8123-45c7-8407-ed039257f508)
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Bruce, here is another one that might fit the bill.
Built by George Britnell. Maybe you could talk him out of it?
Gil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn4t5bsMXyQ
George's engine would be lovely (all his creations are) but it appears to be high revving with a very high stall.
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Hi Bruce, Gage GA Graham Industries had a horizontal that is the only one I am aware of that could be used as a Cretors small enough to fit within your size requirements.
Gil
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unfortunately, Graham Ind. is out of business.
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Bruce, here is another one that might fit the bill.
Built by George Britnell. Maybe you could talk him out of it?
Gil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn4t5bsMXyQ
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Are we going to see a miniature SPS popcorn wagon?? ;D ;D
I had the same thought!
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Are we going to see a miniature SPS popcorn wagon?? ;D ;D
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Hi Bruce, Gage GA Graham Industries had a horizontal that is the only one I am aware of that could be used as a Cretors small enough to fit within your size requirements.
Gil
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Thanks Arnold, I do like it ,I wonder if they sell one ready to run ?
I guess they are only available as a kit - the website
from Bengs in english language:
https://www.bengs-modellbau.de/en/material-kits/steam-engines/139/model-steam-engine-danni-premilled-material-kit
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Thanks Arnold, I do like it ,I wonder if they sell one ready to run ?
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Bruce, how about this one from Bengs:
This "Danni" looks maybe closer to a Cretors
bore is 15 mm and stroke 18 mm
dia of the flywheel 80 mm - but you can also
make a solid one with 40 mm.
the set is milled all other materials raw.
website: https://www.bengs-modellbau.de/materialbausaetze/dampfmaschinen/dampfmaschine-danni
Arnold
https://youtu.be/svx5xNh0WJ0
https://youtu.be/8FAP9fpEYP4
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Good ideas all , I've considered the D2...not quite what I'mooking for, I would like a miniature Creters looking engine, I went in my mind all the Jensen variations and a #35 seems like I "may" be able to make compact enough. Still looking for the right engine. I really prefer a slide valve horizontal engine.I think Nick bought a miniature Stuart from George Brittnel that would do nicely 😉😄👍
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Maybe even a Jensen 85 or 5? I,m sure you could adapt it to your need.the little Bona of I bought from you at cabin fever a few years back might work too bad I won,t part with it :)
Crazydoug
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Here's an idea for you Bruce. Take the engine from a Jensen 70 or similar, make it horizontal
and low. Replace the spoked flywheel with a small thick marine style wheel. That'll keep the
height and length down. Should run with that mass spinning.
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It is too bad that Graham Industries stopped making engines. The HM1 might be a good choice if you can find one.
Jim in Minnesota
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Bruce, don't you have one in the top of your cane? Have you ever made one?
Or how about one of these from Wilesco?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/292191339170?hash=item4407f602a2:g:poAAAOSwl1hZcldM
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Thanks Arnold, the size & style is close to what I'm looking for.
Dennis (Scorpion2nz) might still have abunch of those Auld engines and parts
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Thanks Arnold, the size & style is close to what I'm looking for.
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Bruce - the small motors I know are from AULD NZ.
They are easy to remove from the base. The size is
about 2" x 1,25" and they cost around us$ 50.00 to 70.00
(ebay)
Have a nice day, Arnold
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Bonjour Bruce,
JMC makes nice 1 cm3 Stephenson bicylinders : https://www.jmc-vapeur.fr/
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Pricey too.
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Do you need a single action or a double action or doesn't it matter? ???
I don't think it matters , the load will be very light, would like it to be smooth at low rpm/pressure ( A tough order for a small engine) thought about Saito , but all I've seen of them was to large.
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Do you need a single action or a double action or doesn't it matter? ???
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Do you have any of Ben Peaks engines? ;D
No...I'd forgotten about him (hence this post) A good idea Tommy , but I don't see them for sale very often.
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Do you have any of Ben Peaks engines? ;D
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Hello fellow steamers , I am trying to find a very small steam engine for a project and looking for suggestions please ,I'm looking for a quality made engine 3" long or less and not more than 2" tall, please don't suggest any Chinese engines as I won't consider them. Thanks for any helpful advice you can give.