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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression – etc => Topic started by: JinMachine on April 04, 2019, 06:38:18 am
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This engine will start easily by hand just like the horizontal. You will not need a rope or electric start unless it goes in a boat.
Gil
I want to assemble a boat, so install the electric start. Because in the boat, hand start is unwise to operate. Jin
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Just out of curiosity (and because I have a 50" steam launch in need of a power plant) I wonder how big a boat this would handle - would definitely make for an interesting build.
My guess is that it would handle it much more than easily, might even be a bit much for it, depending on the displacement.
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Just out of curiosity (and because I have a 50" steam launch in need of a power plant) I wonder how big a boat this would handle - would definitely make for an interesting build.
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Makes sense if it's going into a boat, but for stand-alone engines I do like Doug's rope-start pulley idea ;)
This engine will start easily by hand just like the horizontal. You will not need a rope or electric start unless it goes in a boat.
Gil
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https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/general-discussion-scale-model-gas-engines-hit-miss-throttle-governed-non-compression-etc/vertical-miss-complete-engine-model-m91-advance-sale-in-advance/
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Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine With variable pitch paddle
That should move across the water quite well 8)
https://youtu.be/XtISIgpnW9Q
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I plan to install the engine on the model ship, so I need an electric starter! Jin
Makes sense if it's going into a boat, but for stand-alone engines I do like Doug's rope-start pulley idea ;)
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Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine With variable pitch paddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtISIgpnW9Q&feature=youtu.be
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Is it that hard to start that is needs this electronic starter Jin ? speaking only for myself , I'm very turned off by the big starter gear over that beautiful flywheel, if it absolutely needs a starter motor...perhaps maybe a less intrusive ring gear on the "inside" of the flywheel & maybe a starter generator set-up , or possibly a groove cut in the flywheel & a easily detachable drive belt & starter. I know this is a public "work in progress" & I appreciated that insight very much.
I plan to install the engine on the model ship, so I need an electric starter! Jin
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How about a simple rope start pulley. I have several small hit miss engines that I have added a small pulley for a simple rope starter. Works well and doesnt distract from the nice looking flywheel.
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I’d have to agree with Bruce......the Gear is a big negative for me. Have you thought of integrating a domed “spinner” on the center of the flywheel that you could use with a handheld electric motor with rubber cup that would spin the spinner to start the engine - the way model airplanes are started?
Love the engine BTW! Thanks for showing it!
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Is it that hard to start that is needs this electronic starter Jin ? speaking only for myself , I'm very turned off by the big starter gear over that beautiful flywheel, if it absolutely needs a starter motor...perhaps maybe a less intrusive ring gear on the "inside" of the flywheel & maybe a starter generator set-up , or possibly a groove cut in the flywheel & a easily detachable drive belt & starter. I know this is a public "work in progress" & I appreciated that insight very much.
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Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine upgrades electric start
Try starting the vertical engine with a motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PS4VJPTcg&feature=youtu.be
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I am sorry because of the weight of the marble board we have to consider the transportation cost. Jin
...lol, I was just speaking openly Jin, I would never expect you to supply such a thing.
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I do like the progression of watching the build process & what works & what's been tried & found not satisfactory. I love you fuel tank holder , I think 2 holders would look & be very beneficial if you could work it in to the design, if I may be so bold. This just begs to be on a marble mount imho...would also calm it down from moving about. I will be on the list when all the work in progress issue's are worked out. Love the forced water cooling radiator and drive pully. Lots of modding possibilities with this one. Thanks for sharing with us.
I am sorry because of the weight of the marble board we have to consider the transportation cost. Jin
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Where can I sign up? Is there any possibility for a forum group buy?
Thanks again for some awesome photos of your prototyping.
I like this idea ;)
And we would sure do a good job of advertising them! :D
Very nice Jin 8)
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Where can I sign up? Is there any possibility for a forum group buy?
Thanks again for some awesome photos of your prototyping.
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That's going to be nice - guess I'd better start saving my nickels and dimes!
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I do like the progression of watching the build process & what works & what's been tried & found not satisfactory. I love you fuel tank holder , I think 2 holders would look & be very beneficial if you could work it in to the design, if I may be so bold. This just begs to be on a marble mount imho...would also calm it down from moving about. I will be on the list when all the work in progress issue's are worked out. Love the forced water cooling radiator and drive pully. Lots of modding possibilities with this one. Thanks for sharing with us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9v1auPNIqA&feature=youtu.be
You better ramp up production Jin.
You are going to have difficulty keeping up with the orders! 🤠
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9v1auPNIqA&feature=youtu.be
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This is so cool Jin. Fun to watch your process and thanks for letting us in. And I see a PTO pulley!
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Because this is a low speed engine, the first pump solution was cancelled. A new pump was used.
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Looks almost ready to run. I would like to see that!
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Welcome aboard Jin, so cool to have you here !
I completely agree with the others above, that new engine looks great (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji482.png)
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Had to wipe the drool off my beard.
Amazing Jin.
Thank you for the detailed pictures. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I must have one!
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Wow! That’s very nice Jin. Let me add my welcome, great to have you on board here. I like the looks of this new design.....I get the feeling the engine you just shipped me is going to get a brother once those are available.
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warm greetings & welcome Jin, I really like the new design, & if its anything near as good as the hit-n-miss engine i'll surely be buying one.
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Jin that is fantastic! I'll have to have one. So cleanly designed and precision work. Top line stuff.
Glad you are with us. Great build pictures too!
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Nice work!
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Impressive!
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Better & better yet!
Love the radiator ..... if that is what that is!?!?
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Great looking engine Jin. Can't wait for this to hit the market.
crazydoug
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Welcome aboard Jin, have enjoyed seeing and buying some of your creations over the years ;)
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Fantastic new model Jin.
These will be very popular when you start to auction them.
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Wonderful new creation Jin. I love your stuff and hopefully today I get a delivery of your basic Hit & Miss Engine.
glad you could join us,
Roger
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The reality looks even better than the drawings!
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come on
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Good to have a great maker and enthusiast such as yourself aboard here Jin ... Welcome!!!
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It looks good, Jin and glad to see you on this forum as well
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I am very happy to have a new place to exchange! Thanks Gil for helping me.
This is a new engine and a new attempt. Upgrade with a metal piston ring. Hope everything goes well. Jin