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Builds, Repairs, Show Your Machines! => Technical Tips, Builds, and Help => Topic started by: St Paul Steam on April 26, 2022, 07:08:19 pm
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thank you., impressive line up of toys.
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Thanks everyone , what a marvelous response and informative.
Damnfmaschine , does that barrel have a false bottom in it ?
Well the barrel does have a bottom in it Bruce and as I understand it is not 'false'?
I have taken the liberty to show the bottom of the butter churn barrel here with some other projects on the operating table atm....
You might notice that with my steam toy addiction and restoration along with the never ending stone cottage restoration I've not a lot of time for long winded or many posts to Forum; but I do like to help out and participate where I can :D
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Bruce you really need to go into production mate :)
(Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!)
That would make it a business, & I don't find that near as exciting as creating new one off's. in the past I have made a small batch of steam toys (Empire swings for example) but found that process to be more work than fun and too demanding. not saying that I would never run another batch of steam accessories (thought about the chicken roaster) but I have other interests that are pushing that kind of commitment to the side.
but thanks for the encouragement.
Just keep coming up with things then Bruce because each creation is just spectacular!
I was able to plagiarize the Baker Fan build, but your latest creations are outside of my pay grade!!!!
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Watching that video, you definitely want a good seal on the lid.
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Thanks for the confidence, I was just looking around Amazon for glass jars and found several sizes available, I did run across a spiral SS wire ball that could be dropped inside the jar for an agitating effect , I suppose it would rattle around like a ball in a spray can , I'm curious if it would have a beneficial effect or not. I really like the cradle feature of the glass jar example above.
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Here is a video that Danny posted a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/ppZMzHubPiY
You can see in this video the yellow butter clearly separate from the pale white buttermilk, so he must have had his cream close to room temperature.
Sometimes you can get fancy smaller glass jars in the canning section, they make them a bit better looking as people sometimes give a jar of homemade jam as gifts in the fall.
Hobby Lobby has quite a vast selection of decorative glass jars as well in all shapes and sizes, then ebay would have the vintage looking jars.
I was also thinking it's not mandatory for the jar to flip end over end...you could spin it like in a lathe? Imagine if you had the lid chucked in a lathe, then thread the jar on, this would run more smoothly, but you would need to mount some sort of beater inside the jar so as it spins the beater would spin with the jar to do the work to the cream, it could be as simple as a single flat plate on one side so as the jar spins with maybe 5/8 full of cream the flat bar comes around and mixes the cream. I only mention this as it gives you more mounting options in your bearing towers.
If you really want to get Olde Timey? you could make a unit with a vertical plunger motion...very much like the Ertl Pump Jack, then you could make the really old "dasher" style butter maker.
Lots of ways to get the job done, I suspect Bruce's SPS version will be super sweet!
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I think a small Mason Jar would provide an excellent vessel for the build. An older green or blue glass one would be neat.
looking right now Charlie , I'll come up with something, thanks.
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I think a small Mason Jar would provide an excellent vessel for the build. An older green or blue glass one would be neat.
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Another consideration is the time into a build , while the initial prototype for the chicken roaster was probably 30hrs and the pretzel warmer 35-40 hrs ,usually 25% time can be shaved off contingent copies.that still leaves 20-25 hrs per copy and few want to invest in that kind of time charge. So...I just make them for me & time is no consideration then 😊
Well said Bruce!
And you do provide inspiration to us of lesser “genius” and/or “imagination”. 🤠
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Here is a video that Danny posted a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/ppZMzHubPiY
Thanks Charlie, very cool , I like that !
I think I've got to build myself something along those lines.
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Another consideration is the time into a build , while the initial prototype for the chicken roaster was probably 30hrs and the pretzel warmer 35-40 hrs ,usually 25% time can be shaved off contingent copies.that still leaves 20-25 hrs per copy and few want to invest in that kind of time charge. So...I just make them for me & time is no consideration then 😊
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Here is a video that Danny posted a couple years ago.
https://youtu.be/ppZMzHubPiY
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Bruce you really need to go into production mate :)
(Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!)
That would make it a business, & I don't find that near as exciting as creating new one off's. in the past I have made a small batch of steam toys (Empire swings for example) but found that process to be more work than fun and too demanding. not saying that I would never run another batch of steam accessories (thought about the chicken roaster) but I have other interests that are pushing that kind of commitment to the side.
but thanks for the encouragement.
Ditto - I like to do prototypes and repairs - that means if I have to do 2 screws
that's already a series - definitely not fun. I'm just not the type for production
but I'm glad there are people who do that.Arnold ;D
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Bruce you really need to go into production mate :)
(Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!)
That would make it a business, & I don't find that near as exciting as creating new one off's. in the past I have made a small batch of steam toys (Empire swings for example) but found that process to be more work than fun and too demanding. not saying that I would never run another batch of steam accessories (thought about the chicken roaster) but I have other interests that are pushing that kind of commitment to the side.
but thanks for the encouragement.
YES YES YES, CHICKEN! I like chicken. WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji490.png)(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji490.png)(https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji490.png)
Don't think about, just do it.
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Bruce you really need to go into production mate :)
(Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!)
That would make it a business, & I don't find that near as exciting as creating new one off's. in the past I have made a small batch of steam toys (Empire swings for example) but found that process to be more work than fun and too demanding. not saying that I would never run another batch of steam accessories (thought about the chicken roaster) but I have other interests that are pushing that kind of commitment to the side.
but thanks for the encouragement.
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Bruce you really need to go into production mate :)
(Seriously!!!!!!!!!!!)
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You really do have everything Walter! :D
Thanks for the tips Shadetree’s mom ;)
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Thanks everyone , what a marvelous response and informative.
Damnfmaschine , does that barrel have a false bottom in it ?
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I talked with my mom about butter making, I told her how in the video the butter/buttermilk did not seperate, she said that happens when you take cream right out of the refrigerator and try to make butter with cold cream, you set it out on the counter and let it warm up to room temperature or little cooler, then you will get proper butter rather than a cream sauce about the consistency of mustard.
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I was thinking martini's, but you'll want them shaken, not stirred. ;D
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Yes and i could supply better photos or measurements if need be....
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I think this one could also be used as a tumbler for cleaning pistol ammo
Arnold ;D
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I have the Maerklin with the Glass and the Ha-Mobil
with a Weck Glass and Rubber Seal. These Glases were also
used for marmalade . I never have tried to make butter
more I think you could make cream - haha
I guess there are several more on the market...
Arnold ;D
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Yes and i could supply better photos or measurements if need be....
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We made butter from our Jersey cow as I was growing up (hobby subsistence farm) such that I never had store milk until I was 17 Except when I stayed at friends house...I thought store milk tasted like water with white food coloring added, turned out whole Jersey milk is known for its Very high butterfat content so my tastes where a bit skewed! ;D
I was looking at the result from video and it's close but I wonder if he started with store purchased whole whipping cream? It may have much of the buttermilk removed?...what we would get on the farm would be the yellow clumps of butter would be floating in pale buttermilk, looks like slightly watered down 2%.
Mom would scoop this soft butter out into a wooden bowl and knead it with a wooden spoon for a couple minutes, this would remove the last of the buttermilk trapped in the soft butter, then salt to taste or leave unsalted. The result was butter that would hold its shape but easily spreadable at room temp and very firm stored in refrigerator.
Interesting fun fact: the butter would be More yellow than store butter in the summer time (grass feed)
In winter the butter would be much more pale color nearly white sometimes.
Fun project for the steam engine to run!
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Are your pretzels too dry? :D
Not when dunked in beer.
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Are your pretzels too dry? :D
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Thanks Nick , yupper I like that. I think the flipper is more practical , I don't see the gear driven model actually capable of churning butter without belt slippage.
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Someone else’s video (he has 2 others)
https://youtu.be/UlP5k70VGpM
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These are the two styles I have
https://youtu.be/D8XS2RX_KPg
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I have the glass one and yes they will make butter
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seems like an easy build , I would like several more photo's of it .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363806996974?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=q6Gtt28fT4C&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY