Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:07:49 pm
Here is 1974's price list and the earliest I can find the model:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47556747722_a0c0911d4c_b.jpg)
And check out how much prices increased over ten years in 1984 (Catalog #24):
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40643298803_6e5ddedf0d_b.jpg)
The 1" however is listed at least as far back as 1952 in Catalog #14, and is also featured on the cover that year. I do not have any catalogs between the range of 1936-1952...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/40643298853_e98db29589_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24VvwKX)
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:06:54 pm
Dupli-Color and VHT both make a high temp clear coat spray paint for engines and exhaust systems - might work out great for keeping the shine.
Thanks for the tip Larry, something to keep in mind...
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:06:30 pm
oh my ooooh my, just a bit of what I've been waiting to see, this is such a fine looking engine in everyway , I'm sure it will pull you & your whole family Nick ,you really got hold of a nice one, worth the drive however far.
It might look kind of funny, but yes it should have enough power to pull us :D
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:05:53 pm
When I bought the Burrell there was a fellow in the Midwest somewhere...can't recall his name right now but I will look for the receipt- anywho he had an eBay store(large scale live steam stuff) with good Welsh coal. Haven't found a clinker yet and it burns well. Don't know where he was getting it but...
If you do run on coal be prepared for the clean-up. I was exhausted after 6 hours running and 3 more cleaning the engine back up. It's super critical to clear that ash out or it will pit the metal in a hot minute. I use shotgun brushes for the tubes and a big pipe brush for the chimney. But I have to say, running on coal is relaxing once you hit your rhythm.
Haha it does sound like a lot of work, but still something I NEED to try :D I can always fire up the 1" on gas more often for "quick steam-ups"
It did come with brushes that I assume were once barrel cleaning brushes.
I would appreciate any tips on where to find the coal if you can find your receipt ;)
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:03:44 pm
Nick that is a wonderful piece of hardware!
You will want to hydro test and inspect it before you steam it.
Then do a fresh hydro test and inspection every year and keep a test and inspection log.
Most of all.... enjoy it!
Gil
Gas may be best from a corrosion stand point. Coal produces a lot of acid.
I think if you did a leak test with soap and water while inflated with air with the PV valve spitting... You could check all the seams. Any visual signs of corrosion?
I'll know more in a month as I will be at Steam School. :)
What pressure does it steam up to?
I have been told it was hydro-tested to 300 psi. I do not know when though... it came with a ton of paperwork that I still need to look at more carefully...
And I will be talking with a few of the instructors at steam school that I know live in MN, and hopefully I can get some help from them...
Post by: Nick on April 14, 2019, 05:01:30 pm
Are you going to get rubber road tyres for it? Those rear ones look way to nice to mar up.
I agree, especially all the little cast lugs. If I run in the grass/dirt, it will be fine, but I will put tires (rubber belts) on for road travel
Post by: jkbixby on April 14, 2019, 02:20:18 pm
It is pretty decent for being built in the '60's. I do like the bare copper and brass that this one has compared to the usual all flat black and green, but I assume that won't last once it's fired... lots of cleaning and polishing or only running on air to keep this look...Dupli-Color and VHT both make a high temp clear coat spray paint for engines and exhaust systems - might work out great for keeping the shine.
Post by: Stoker on April 14, 2019, 12:13:57 pm
Thanks CB & Benny, I've heard the saying so many times "That's a bit of clinker" etc to describe something subpar but never knew what a clinker was....just that it wasn't something great.
P.s a clinker built boat down here in Oz is one where the hull boards are overlapped, different to a carvel built boat where the hull boards are flush.
Say Jim, please let me speak to your boat building use of the work clinker, and let me say that like so much in the English language, that is the same word but of a very different derivation.
A clinker-built boat is more formally referred to as a Lapstrake boat, but the key to the use of the word "clinker" is that it is a corruption of the word "clincher", as when building lapstrake planking the planks overlap each other and are pulled tight together with clincher type fasteners, which are a bit like a cross between a nail and a rivet.
Hope that makes any sense, but there really is no significant correlation between the two different usages for the same word.
Post by: St Paul Steam on April 14, 2019, 06:35:09 am
Post by: Jim on April 14, 2019, 12:46:32 am
P.s a clinker built boat down here in Oz is one where the hull boards are overlapped, different to a carvel built boat where the hull boards are flush.
Post by: Dr.Rev.DelmarMacReady on April 13, 2019, 11:53:01 pm
Just out of interest what is a 'clinker' ?
The coal I dig here on the other hand has a few. I will try to snap some pics of both tomorrow. They were called clinkers because of the distinctive clink sound the make when they hit the grate. It sounds like lava rock, sort of.
Post by: SeeSteam on April 13, 2019, 11:14:39 pm
Post by: Jim on April 13, 2019, 11:09:36 pm
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Haven't found a clinker
Just out of interest what is a 'clinker' ?
Post by: Dr.Rev.DelmarMacReady on April 13, 2019, 10:59:41 pm
Not yet, will have to figure out what is best to use...When I bought the Burrell there was a fellow in the Midwest somewhere...can't recall his name right now but I will look for the receipt- anywho he had an eBay store(large scale live steam stuff) with good Welsh coal. Haven't found a clinker yet and it burns well. Don't know where he was getting it but...
If you do run on coal be prepared for the clean-up. I was exhausted after 6 hours running and 3 more cleaning the engine back up. It's super critical to clear that ash out or it will pit the metal in a hot minute. I use shotgun brushes for the tubes and a big pipe brush for the chimney. But I have to say, running on coal is relaxing once you hit your rhythm.
Post by: RedRyder on April 13, 2019, 08:05:18 pm
You will want to hydro test and inspect it before you steam it.
Then do a fresh hydro test and inspection every year and keep a test and inspection log.
Most of all.... enjoy it!
Gil
Post by: SeeSteam on April 13, 2019, 08:02:49 pm
I think if you did a leak test with soap and water while inflated with air with the PV valve spitting... You could check all the seams. Any visual signs of corrosion?
I'll know more in a month as I will be at Steam School. :)
What pressure does it steam up to?
Post by: Jim on April 13, 2019, 07:53:35 pm
Post by: Jim on April 13, 2019, 07:52:23 pm
Open your ears Jim, that was the whistle
LOL I watched the video about an hour and half ago :)
Its just after breakfast time here on Sunday morning.....well that's the excuse I'm going with :)
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 07:50:17 pm
Impressive Nick, when you put your hand in to adjust something it really shows the scale of the beast.
Open your ears Jim, that was the whistle
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 07:49:47 pm
That's even impressive just idling on air ... it'll be a handful when coal fired and actually in steam!
What an amazing machine you have obtained for yourself there Nick!!!
Yes, I do have a feeling the first firing will be quite hectic! :D
Post by: Jim on April 13, 2019, 07:42:56 pm
Post by: Stoker on April 13, 2019, 07:05:20 pm
What an amazing machine you have obtained for yourself there Nick!!!
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 07:03:10 pm
Will you fire on wood or coal? I wonder if wood pellets would work?
There is not a lot of room for wood, but I believe they can run on it... I will likely stick to coal... Will probably need a stack extension if I end up riding behind it. :D
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 07:01:33 pm
Can't be in too bad of shape Nick - looks really good!
It is pretty decent for being built in the '60's. I do like the bare copper and brass that this one has compared to the usual all flat black and green, but I assume that won't last once it's fired... lots of cleaning and polishing or only running on air to keep this look...
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 06:59:37 pm
Great to see it turning over, look forward to the live steam test Nick!
Me too!!! ;D ;D
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 06:59:06 pm
That really is a fine piece of work, Nick. Well worth the epic road trip.
Have you stocked up on coal, yet?
Not yet, will have to figure out what is best to use...
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 06:56:04 pm
Love it Nick, thanks for sharing !!!
What needs fixing?
Nothing major... I hope :D
The gauge glass is missing in the video, glass was broken off at the fitting. You can hear air in the video leaking through a few of the fittings, both the whistle and pressure gauge connections are loose. The governor needs adjusting, there are 2 nuts underneath the top that jam together, but they had come loose and spun down the threads when running in reverse. It was pointed out on SmokStak that the steering chains are too loose, it takes 40 turns of the steering wheel from one side to the other, and the loose chains may add 10 turns. One of the handrails was also knocked off the back, but it's here and just cosmetic.
I would also like to have someone look it over before attempting to fire it, but maybe I'll go for a small test anyway... we'll see... The boiler was hydro-tested, but many years ago...
Post by: SeeSteam on April 13, 2019, 06:19:30 pm
Post by: jkbixby on April 13, 2019, 06:15:19 pm
Post by: Swift Fox on April 13, 2019, 02:27:14 pm
Post by: Dr.Rev.DelmarMacReady on April 13, 2019, 11:59:36 am
Have you stocked up on coal, yet?
Post by: classixs on April 13, 2019, 11:47:00 am
Love it Nick, thanks for sharing !!!
What needs fixing?
Post by: Nick on April 13, 2019, 11:38:26 am
https://youtu.be/56MFcVUg3Fs