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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: Hassellbear on March 24, 2024, 11:31:32 pm

Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on April 04, 2024, 01:48:12 pm
The Marklin arrived today. I am fairly certain it is an EL4096. It will need some restoration in order to run. It looks like a previous owner attempted to fix a few leaks at the front boiler end cap by applying blobs of solder. It will be interesting to see what issues cleaning that up will uncover. Luckily, I was able to source the missing sight glass assembly and filler screw from a seller in Germany.

For now, work on the Marklin will have to wait until the Doll is completed.

Happy Steaming!

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Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on March 26, 2024, 07:05:41 pm
Thanks for the tips on the power cord. Arnold, the cord socket you made looks better than factory perfect!
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Maxwell on March 26, 2024, 05:14:59 pm
@Hassellbear, reach out to one of our German mates; they may be able to help with cord. Congratulations on a nice Marklin engine.
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: tenniV11 on March 26, 2024, 03:21:49 pm
maybe this thread is from interest for you:

https://www.officeofsteamforum.com/general-discussion/maerklin-40976-electric-plug/msg37932/#msg37932

good luck to find an original one ;D

Arnold
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Fullraceflathead on March 26, 2024, 07:25:45 am
Those catalog pictures are beautiful I wish I had them all!!!
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on March 25, 2024, 02:55:57 pm
An oops post - wrong button.
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on March 25, 2024, 02:49:57 pm
Thanks for the cord info Nick. That clears things up a bit. It may be possible to 3D print a suitable cord socket using ABS or polycarbonate which are somewhat heat resistant, or as Stoker suggested, I may have to "carve" one out of some suitable material. However, the initial connections will have to be much more primitive  :-\

I've spent some time researching this Marklin. Based on the following catalog pages, I believe it is a 1930 or earlier model EL4096. I am basing this on the round firebox windows/vents and 4 top ports on the boiler. It looks like after 1930 the firebox vents were rectangular, there were 5 boiler top ports, and the model changed to EL4097.


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Images (translated by Google) from historical Marklin Catalogs available at:

www.lctm.info/Secciones/Trenes/Biblioteca/Catalogos/index.php


Happy Steaming!
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Stoker on March 25, 2024, 12:39:42 pm
If it gets down to desperation for an electrical plug for this engine, it shouldn't be too hard to "carve" one out of a block of Phenolic or some similar material, and wire one up yourself.
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Nick on March 25, 2024, 10:52:53 am
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Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on March 25, 2024, 10:41:23 am
Yes, I could not find a cord, and there doesn't seem to be much available info about those. I'm curious about how it is wired.

I was able to purchase a sight glass assembly and filler cap. On second thought, I don't think this model came with a pressure gauge, as it looks like the boiler only has 4 top ports (pressure relief, whistle, steam pipe, and filler cap?). Pictures of similar engines with a pressure gauge show those have 5 top ports on the boiler.


Happy Steaming!
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Nick on March 25, 2024, 09:24:23 am
Took me about 10 years to find one of those cords! I had been watching this one, waiting for it to get re-listed slightly cheaper, but the seller wouldn’t come down…
Title: Re: A New Addition
Post by: Stoker on March 24, 2024, 11:35:25 pm
It is undoubtedly intended for electric firing!
Title: A New Addition
Post by: Hassellbear on March 24, 2024, 11:31:32 pm
It should arrive in a week or so.

It’s missing the sight glass assembly, special power cord, pressure gauge, pressure relief weight, and possibly a dynamo (it has mounting holes for a dynamo).

One thing is certain. It will be a repair and restoration project.

Is it possibly an electrically heated version of a 4097?


Happy Steaming!


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