Office of Steam Forum for Model & Toy Steam Gas & Hot Air Engines
The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => Off Topic => Topic started by: RedRyder on April 20, 2024, 12:09:36 pm
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Tommy, that is nice !
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I placed that order with Jin for the Rider Ericsson engine on April 22nd and it showed up today
on April 30th. Just 8 days, but it didn't come from China. Came from Lincoln Nebraska. Huh?
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I'll ask him.
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I see Jin has new listings on Ebay--problem solved?
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@RedRyder
It’s very possible Gil; the package was delivered by Fedex, and it had all the stamps & markings that it was dispatched from China. My friend was able to get back in business with no delay at all; which is amazing!
What I wanted to say is that this vendor (Jin) went out of their way, allowing the purchase of a machined part that they don’t sell by itself in order to accommodate a buyer, and they did that so quickly at a very cheap price. It also appears to me that this vendor (Jin) is more than just a model engines maker; but has a wide range of product offerings.
Thanks, I appreciate the additional info.
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@RedRyder
It’s very possible Gil; the package was delivered by Fedex, and it had all the stamps & markings that it was dispatched from China. My friend was able to get back in business with no delay at all; which is amazing!
What I wanted to say is that this vendor (Jin) went out of their way, allowing the purchase of a machined part that they don’t sell by itself in order to accommodate a buyer, and they did that so quickly at a very cheap price. It also appears to me that this vendor (Jin) is more than just a model engines maker; but has a wide range of product offerings.
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Is it possible your friend told jin he needed the part super fast and Jin acommodated him by including the shipping cost into the purchase price for 2nd day delivery.?
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My only witnessed experience with Jin was not live steam related; only because I collect vintage steam. A friend at the weekly Asian market in Philadelphia, PA had one of his commercial juicing machines gears damaged with broken parts. He remembered Jin’s username on ebay where he bought the $900 juicer. Jin responded by listing the part on ebay with BIN for $50 including shipping. It arrived in 48 hours from China. How this fast, I have no clue.
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Well I just made a purchase from Ol Jin for the first time today. Everything he had on eBay/DE is there
until you click on it. Then it says not available. Over here it still is so I bid on a Rider Ericsson,
a red one and won it, and paid for it. Time will tell what I get, it was cheap.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235522628482
Stole it 🤪
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Well done Gil, nice effort, I hope ot pays off.
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Good on ya Gil!!!
Hope it has the desired effect!
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Update:
Yesterday I was finally able to speak to an ebay human.
Over a 33 minute call I attempted to present a good case for ebay to reconsider their ruling regarding Jin and his business. The representative took lots of notes and gave me a phone call reference number for use if I speak with them again. She said she would try to get the notes in front of the right eyes.
I am hopeful yet still skeptical.
Gil
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Yep, you got that one at a really good price so congrats on that Tommy.
Don't get to beat a master snipper like Gil just every day of the week, so congrats on that as well ....... sorry Gil! ;c)
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Gee Gil, I was sniping too. Good thing we weren't playing "Enemy at the Gates". ;D
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Congrats, Tommy...!!!
You beat me by 1 increment.
I threw a sniper bid at it for 157 with a few seconds to go.
You got a great deal...!!!
Gil
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Well I just made a purchase from Ol Jin for the first time today. Everything he had on eBay/DE is there
until you click on it. Then it says not available. Over here it still is so I bid on a Rider Ericsson,
a red one and won it, and paid for it. Time will tell what I get, it was cheap.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/235522628482
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Bonjour Bob,
Jin's official site is here : https://www.okmomodel.com/
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It’s good that it’s back; but 98% feedback hurts the business. Jin, you need to work on bringing it above 99% at least.
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I've never bought anything from Jin. Is this his store? It's appears to be live.
https://www.ebay.com/str/jinsteamengines
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Perhaps if Jin had made his items Buy it Now at the price he wanted instead of cancelling bids because they didn't make enough money he would not be in the fix he now finds himself.
Roy
Hi Roy. We do not even know if this is what happened and neither does the complainer.
It could easily have been shipped and then lost by the postal service.
If he did do what he is accused of, ebay needs to explain to him in chinese that this is not acceptable and to discontinue said practice.
I know I have complained when ebay sellers canceled sales and refunded even buyitnow items and ebay flat out refused to help me... making me think it might be better for Jin to simply cancel and refund immediately rather than let ebay send out a shipped notice. Incidentally, the item shipped notices from ebay businesses are going out near immediately after payment and I believe this is encouraged by if not insisted on by ebay.
Bottom line is ebay may have culpability in this.
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Perhaps if Jin had made his items Buy it Now at the price he wanted instead of cancelling bids because they didn't make enough money he would not be in the fix he now finds himself.
Roy
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Jin should set up an Amazon account.
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Bonjour,
It seem that in France I may go on seeing djsteam but nomor galjglg.... :
https://www.ebay.fr/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=gas+regulator+P5&_sacat=0
https://www.ebay.fr/itm/233351329709?itmmeta=01HW118HFW00YQYB50NX76SYAG&hash=item3654d2b7ad:g:IVkAAOSw~hNdX~0v&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4N8Vs%2BqUpJ9QuFmhRnB8V0RRXo20mztaFSpV7Qnl%2FZ%2BKS4pMV9NFoo87sl7IFHjDM4rwQOo6BV4OYJ1JOfXYslkIbAiqlMV5xK3TyOsOCULODDXD%2FGLOHT43gMpZO0mTwfEngu1HArzJ%2BWtX9G%2F8Dil66K4I%2FsMqiHDhyoYw61LCEsDUEzPHuv3ku%2BPtqcaL%2B%2B2poFDUe6SL%2FmwrjgioJ69qZlSavqfmt6YtrZ67fDo2wBxvV4QKLE%2BCWEWUpWitcBaV1O%2F9lemhK0QCB6RBuSFYOCtAmAAi5tkg%2B6Kb%2FM9f%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4qYoqHgYw
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In clicking on some of my older orders I find that the Microcosm Engine Store (galglg) header is still up, but with a blue stripe stating they are SOLD OUT and offering hundreds of other stores to shop at .... like Adidas and such ... unrelated.
Meanwhile, clicking on (mage-yang) still brings up products for sale under the Header of Microcosm Hit Miss Engine, and clicking on (dtjsteam) brings up products for sale under the Header of Jin+steam+Engines, so maybe he isn't completely out of business yet .... we can hope.
Of course I haven't tried to make a purchase, so maybe he is shut down, but not yet made invisible???
Here's hoping that valued resource isn't gone for good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is really sad news as I've gotten some great deals on real quality items from Jin in the past!
I've even gotten some things at what must have been too low a price, but they came through anyway.
I am saddened for Jin and his people, but eBay is a viscous mistress as many know all too well, so while I can only hope that this gets equitably rectified, I will certainly not be surprised if it does not!
Perhaps the passing of an era here in the I.C., Steam and Stirling model world?!?!
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Well...did he do these type of things ? I know when I got sent a bad gear reduction gearbox he immediately refunded my money and promptly banned me from ever buying from him again without so much as an explanation. The only way this got fixed was when Gil intervened and squared it with Jin. Otherwise I was treated like eBay is now treating Jin.
EBay can be incredibly pro-buyer and will turn a sellers world upside down at the mere suggestion of improprieties. I haven't sold anything on EBay since August 1st 2023 when a scammer took over my account & EBay didnt care to help for 6 months.
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I got a disturbing e-mail from Jin and here it is.
"Hi Gil,
I have been complained by a buyer in Germany for engaging in false transactions, and my store has been banned on the eBay platform. I can no longer sell goods. All my efforts over the past decade have been lost. I am truly sad. I am very sad, and I cannot imagine how I will continue in the future. I am the father of three children, and I have 8 employees, which means 8 families will be affected by my store's problems.
Jin"
I looked at some of his negative feedback and I think it is related to possibly an auction ending too cheaply and being canceled and refunded. It might be the timing that is problematic. I say this because several times I have won an auction, paid for it and the seller canceled the sale anywhere from hours to a few days after. I mention this because I profusely asked eBay for help multiple times and both in writing and by phone. In every instance, eBay flat out refused to help.
Yet here is what they have told Jin:
This is the email address for the eBay restriction section: hkappeal@ebay.com (hkappeal@ebay.com)
They belong to China
My eBay: galglg
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Here is the email they sent me!!!
Hello,
Thank you for contacting eBay. I am glad to have the opportunity to serve you.
We understand that your letter is about account restrictions and would be happy to answer your questions.
After verification, we have identified that your account has engaged in dishonest or non compliant behavior in evading relevant policy assessments, such as the package corresponding to the logistics tracking number uploaded to the eBay platform not being a genuine product for sale, resulting in a negative shopping experience for platform buyers.
Because your behavior of evading relevant policy assessments in a non compliant manner is strictly prohibited by the eBay platform, this restriction cannot be lifted and appeals will not be accepted. Therefore, this restriction cannot be lifted and there is no appeal process in place.
I hope the above content has answered your question about account restrictions.
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I'm not sure if eBay headquarters in the United States has the authority to help me solve this problem?
But we still hope that you can mobilize people from the forum to help us file an appeal against the US eBay
This is a 14 year old store that specializes in developing engines. I have put in too much effort
My email address can be made public on the forum. We agree
Jin
Here is my most recent response to Jin:
Hi Jin,
1. I find over 400 of your items selling by Jin+steam+engines and 395 items by Jin Steam Engine and 424 items when I search Microcosm Engine and 164 items under Microcosm Hit Miss Engine
2. I cannot find the mage yang account.
I cannot find your ebay store.
I cannot find your galglg account
I cannot find your DTJsteam account
3. I saw some of your recent feedback related to canceling auctions after they have finished at a price too low. Is this item # 116144422502 one of this type?
It finished just over an hour ago. I had intended to bid $271 but did not come back to
bid in time.
4. I am wondering if it is better to just cancel an auction and refund before a shipped notice goes out if it sells too cheap.
5. Are you able to tell me who is the complainer?
6. I will be putting an announcement up on our forum.
All the best,
Gil