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Builds, Repairs, Show Your Machines! => Restorations => Topic started by: Hero on June 15, 2019, 08:21:05 pm
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Look at this thing!
Someone gave me this, all plastered with blanket insulation of some kind (should have taken a picture, but didn't; I was too concerned with taking it off). At first I thought it was made of steel, because a magnet stuck to it, but it turned out that the magnet was sticking to the steel mesh that was part of the insulation. Turns out that this is an amazing silver-brazed copper boiler, complete with water cross-tubes in the flue, superheater, and GOK what else.
Here's how it looks just now: bare of insulation, broken sight glass removed, all valves and fittings freed up and moving nicely.
It looks like a very old boiler, as you can see from the wooden valve wheels. Nonetheless, so far it looks very solid. I'll have to make blanking plugs, etc. and give it a pressure test, but at the very least it makes a dandy paperweight!
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Perhaps it needs pickling? Followed by a pressure test. The water tubes look awesome, should generate steam very well.
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You sure have a lot of good finds Bob ;) Can't wait to see it cleaned up 8)
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Perhaps it needs pickling? Followed by a pressure test. The water tubes look awesome, should generate steam very well.
Pickling for sure.🍾 De-scaling, too.
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Nice score Bob.
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There! Pickled. At least enough to do a pressure test; there's still some scale in there, though.
The scabs on the outside are not pits; they're raised blobs that I think are what's left of the old insulating material. Anyway, I can scrape them off.
First inspection looks good. It holds water at atmospheric pressure, and that's a great start. No leaks from valves, either. The silver solder is smooth and uniform-looking, and I anticipate no problems here.
So, off to make some plugs, find a gauge, and pump it full of water (BTW, the wooden crate this came in had a little feed pump in there, too. Bonus!)
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I'd love to come across a paperweight like that one myself Bob! ;c)
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Nice find Bob!
Looking forward to hearing the results of the pressure test.
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This is a bit premature, but I'm confident.
Tested up to 120 PSI or thereabouts, but a nagging small gasket leak kept reducing the pressure. Picture shows pressure at 7 bar, or about 105 PSI. No other signs of trouble, and I'll re-do the test next week when I've made some more gaskets.
I'd like to run the boiler at 80 PSI.
Thought you'd like to see pictures.
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Thanks for the pictures Bob, and I was just looking at those same pumps on eBay the other day...
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Pump works very well. I got mine never-used for cheap at a yard sale, and have not regretted it.
Just remember that if you want to use it for the small stuff you have to make your own reducing adapters. I've made several.
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NICE very nice
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Well!
Someone around here has put up for sale a boiler very much like mine:
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Here's his description:
This copper boiler is 6"OD X 12" long with a 2" Dia stack, has a blow lamp type burner but could be converted to a gas burner, ideal for a good sized model boat.
And now the asking price: $2500.00!
Doesn't this seem a tad high?
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Nice, but yes the price is high at $2500 CAD (just under $2000 USD)
I would value it at $750-1000 USD, maybe a little more if it was from a known maker.
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I agree. Some people are either uninformed or greedy.
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I agree. Some people are either uninformed or greedy.
But just you wait till it has its lagging, etc.
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New gauge glass now. Fittings checked or refurbished. Furnace end painted with high-temperature paint. Only one small weep in the feed water check valve.
.Starting to look better, too, what with the jatoba wood lagging held on for now with double-sided tape.
Already makes a great paperweight!
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That appears to be a massively thick walled boiler. If it is all built to that standard it will take a whole lot of BTUs to make steam, but once made it will keep on steaming for a long time!
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Yeah. I haven't yet given much thought to a burner (it came without one), but I have this vision of a 20lb propane tank somewhere in there....
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Getting closer.
Still needs gauge and safety valve (have both), chimney and burner (have to make both), pipe lagging, and various fittings to connect it all to an engine.
I envision it as a stationary steam source for various engines.
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Excellent work!
Looking forward to seeing the first steam up.
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Looking good, sir. I'm with Charlie- ready to see this monster run something. It certainly looks capable.
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That looks a million times better, Nice Work Bob!
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Thanks for the encouraging words, people. I'll keep at it....
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You clean it up a 100% and the lagging turned out great.
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That's coming along just fine ... looking forward to it steaming something.
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Have to find or make a burner for it. Looking at one of Jin's right now.
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Made chimney, made burner, added pressure gauge and other fittings.
Ready to connect to a steam engine.
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Thanks, Charlie.
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I cannot believe that is the same boiler 8)
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Bob, I am with Nick on this. Hard to believe it's the same boiler.
You've done an outstanding job of bringing it back from the brink!
Fully functional and looks great, too!
Gil
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Hey Bob.
Checking to see if you had steamed up the boiler yet.
I was wondering how it performed.
Charlie
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Not yet, Charlie. Still have snow on the ground here, with daily temperatures just above freezing.
Soon, though.
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Not yet, Charlie. Still have snow on the ground here, with daily temperatures just above freezing.
Soon, though.
Spring has come to Dallas.
It is 80F/26C here today.
Hopefully, you can fire it up when it warms up there.
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I thought spring was here too, but we had nearly an inch of snow overnight ;)
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Hey Bob, wake-up, spring is here. It's time to stop hibernating and time to start steaming, like that Very Serious Boiler Bob.
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My very thought first thing this morning!
You must be psychic, or psychotic, or whatever it is.
Still gardening, etc, and have to service the lawn tractors today, but I plan to try for tomorrow.
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Yikes! It's about 40 Fahrenheit out there, and looking similar for the next little while.
I'll have to wait a bit.
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Yikes! It's about 40 Fahrenheit out there, and looking similar for the next little while.
I'll have to wait a bit.
Summer came and went here too! Good thing I didn't get carried away in the garden yet.
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Summer's back, and with a vengeance at 30 degrees Celsius, and here's the Serious Boiler in operation at last.
I know, I know, the video is awful (read the YouTube video [attachimg=1]description), but at least the boiler works fine.
https://youtu.be/IhetX_ufktI
The burner, on the other hand needs re-thinking, as, aside from being cobbled together just to get the boiler going, it's a bit too small for the job and keeps going out if I insert it into the flue.
In fact, pretty well everything was cobbled together just so I could make the miserable video. I didn't even connect the hand feed pump, as I didn't intend to run it all for very long.
I have yet to work out a permanent mounting and piping arrangement so that I can use the boiler as a steam source for different engines.
It was worth all the work, though, at least to me.
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Nice to see you putting that boiler to work...!!!
And... as I may have said before, it looks fantastic. Engine looks great, too!
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Nice to see you putting that boiler to work...!!!
That "work" thing is interesting.
As I was running the engine, the farmer who rents my pasture came along, looked at it, and said, "But what are you going to do with it?"
My reply: "I AM doing it!"
The farmer was not impressed....
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Nice to see you putting that boiler to work...!!!
That "work" thing is interesting.
As I was running the engine, the farmer who rents my pasture came along, looked at it, and said, "But what are you going to do with it?"
My reply: "I AM doing it!"
The farmer was not impressed....
I know how that goes all to well :D
I will say that I am impressed ;)
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Looks a lot better than than what you started with
Well done
Cheers
Dennis
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Sweet.
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Thanks, all. Once I determine how to make this an adaptable power supply, I'll let you all know.
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A great project Bob.
Nice to see the fruits of your labor!
I thought the video was fine. Sure gave me a smile. 🤠
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A great project Bob.
Nice to see the fruits of your labor!
I thought the video was fine. Sure gave me a smile. 🤠
Hey, Charlie,
Ain't it great? I'll have to hook it up to other stuff.
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A great project Bob.
Nice to see the fruits of your labor!
I thought the video was fine. Sure gave me a smile. 🤠
Hey, Charlie,
Ain't it great? I'll have to hook it up to other stuff.
It's a serious boiler. It would be nice to see it powering a big Stuart No. 1.