Office of Steam Forum for Model & Toy Steam Gas & Hot Air Engines

The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: meddyliol on July 10, 2019, 12:26:03 pm

Title: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 10, 2019, 12:26:03 pm

Seen two engines on ebay, a Wilesco D12 and a Mamod SP2. Both in very good nick. Any suggestions would be welcome as I know nothing about Wilesco.

Thanks

Brian

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2019, 07:35:50 pm

I would say the Wilesco, BUT if you have the time, hold off for an older, gray-based Wilesco D-16. You will not be disappointed  ;)  It's my most-fired engine and dedicated "accessory tester"

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 11, 2019, 01:01:29 am

Thanks, have seen a D16 for £120 on ebay, blue base but it looks a little rough. Will think about it though.

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 11, 2019, 02:00:45 am

Am I correct in saying that the Wilesco's can only run with their own burner tablets? Also, could it be a problem that some of the 'cheaper' ones do not have a speed control?

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 02:46:40 am

Not correct.

I would recommend a gas BIX burner from Forest Classics - much cleaner and easier to control.

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: CBWho on July 11, 2019, 08:07:19 am

It is true that the Wilesco burner is rather confined and makes burning stuff other than square Esbit more difficult.

But using gel fuel in foil in the Wilesco burner works well.

It's also true that speed control is nice to have as well.
I recommend spending or waiting a wee bit more for a D16 or a Mamod with a lever. (Could buy a Mamod TE or roller and use it to drive accessories.)

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 08:17:27 am

He could have bought my D24 with line shaft and accessory for £50. I put it in the for sale section and no interest.

CBWho - just out of interest it was fitted with speed control and also used a meths burner - not so safe probably ?

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 11, 2019, 08:45:03 am

Wish I had known about the D24, I would have bought it, I prefer meths burners anyway  :'(
After all of that I decided to buy this Mamod SR1a:

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Qu0AAOSw22JdIkbL/s-l1600.jpg

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: CBWho on July 11, 2019, 09:02:44 am

The steam roller has  good throttle control (has little indents), so will drive accessories well. :)

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 11, 2019, 10:36:27 am

Looking forward to getting some of the Wilesco workshop drive models (when I can convince the other half, surprised that she was keen on this steam roller)  8).
That's two models I have now, this one and the Steam Wagon.
 

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 10:45:54 am

Do you want new condition ones or ones to restore ?

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: meddyliol on July 11, 2019, 12:28:36 pm

New condition ones but am a little short of funds at the moment (and a sympathetic wife  :))

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 12:38:06 pm

Cannot help you on that one as only got one that need tickling up.

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: CBWho on July 11, 2019, 05:20:14 pm

Quote from: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 08:17:27 am

CBWho - just out of interest it was fitted with speed control and also used a meths burner - not so safe probably ?

On my D16, I removed the tray as well, so I now use a Mamod spirit burner.

In regards to accessories, Mamod accessories are very nice too. For a prebuilt workshop, Mamod has a nicer one in my opinion.

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: Scorpion2nz on July 12, 2019, 03:09:15 am

Could have got one of these
Silver soldered boiler
Forward / reverse and speed control
Meths burner .

Title: Re: Wilesco D12 or Mamod SP2?
Post by: 34046 on July 12, 2019, 04:10:05 am

Quote from: CBWho on July 11, 2019, 05:20:14 pm

Quote from: 34046 on July 11, 2019, 08:17:27 am

CBWho - just out of interest it was fitted with speed control and also used a meths burner - not so safe probably ?

On my D16, I removed the tray as well, so I now use a Mamod spirit burner.

In regards to accessories, Mamod accessories are very nice too. For a prebuilt workshop, Mamod has a nicer one in my opinion.

Plus 1 for Mamod accessories as opposed to Wilesco.