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Title: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:06:01 pm
Now the reporting begins....

I was on the road early and picked this up at the crack of dawn in New Jersey this morning.

As soon as I got it in the workshop, I knew it was not a runner, at least not as is. Besides a lot of grunge, there were some issues in need of repair.
It would not allow the crank to rotate fully due to binding and the flywheel scraping both sides of it's slot.


At first I thought could it be made this poorly?
A quick close look at the tiny fasteners and ornate knurled finial caps and the idea of poorly made became a thing of the past. A bent crank shaft would be the culprit. At some point something heavy must have landed on it. I found the gouge in the corner edge of the flywheel face. It is fortunate that the flywheel didn't crack and that the crank didn't break.




A bit of history... This engine has been in the same family for a long time.
The gentleman I got it from (age 66 years) was given this piece by his father a long time ago.
His father was given the machine by his grandfather who emigrated from Germany way back when.
I'll start with the craigslist pictures which I have preserved for the record.


Gil


Now some craigslist pictures followed by some of mine before the work begins.


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Some pictures I took.


Most were taken after a good brushing with a detailing brush (like a large toothbrush) and a lot of Pro-Chem-Co Tool Kit which is like WD-40 only much better for treating and protecting metal. You can still see all the rust while much of the loose crud is gone.


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The steam line is has a Y-pipe and 2 throttles at the top with a single steam tap and a then back through the Y into a single steam line. Sorry about the crappy picture!


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More trying to clean...and ash door.



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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:19:54 pm
More after quick detail brush work and wiping.


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These are retaining screws for the crank pin at the connecting rod ends.
The shank is 57/1000ths.

Try finding one after dropping on a brown and black carpet!


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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:27:25 pm





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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:30:05 pm
And cleaner...

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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:37:19 pm
When you see the air test video you will hear a lot of air leaking.

At first it felt like it was blowing out of the firebox which seemed impossible since there were no pressured connections to the boiler.

I found the trouble. The steam line was split nearly top to bottom. It must have been left to freeze with water still in it.

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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 04:39:07 pm
The fire grate...

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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 01, 2019, 06:14:43 pm
It actually runs after a bit of straightening out things!

Enjoy,

Gil

https://youtu.be/bipSrwTctPI
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Hero on December 01, 2019, 06:55:39 pm
That's quite a snazzy old thing, and definitely unique.

It runs very well, and has the promise of being a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: St Paul Steam on December 01, 2019, 09:34:00 pm
Another beauty saved by a Master, you have that flywheel running incredibly true Gil , very nice work Sir.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Nick on December 01, 2019, 10:25:20 pm
I like that one  8)  Looking better already  ;)
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: komet163b on December 02, 2019, 10:37:04 am
  I knew it.  Runs like a charm.  Magic
in motion.  I'm glad you have it because
my luck has been running a bit so-so and
I'm sure I would have infected it.

  I noticed the letter 'K' on the bottom.
Do you think this is a one-off or is the 'K'
meaningful?

Happy steaming (with a new steampipe),
Wayne
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: komet163b on December 02, 2019, 01:07:22 pm
  Just had the latest EBAY steam engine arrive.
Cleaned and oiled-up, it ran on command.
It is not a stationary engine.  What is its
name and who made it? (trick question)

  A good test....who made the other engines?
Two are modified, three are original survivors,
and all run.  I have a notion on the brass modded
engine.  The others ought to be easy.  Check the
photo.

Good Luck All,
Wayne
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Jim on December 02, 2019, 04:16:30 pm
Very nice find Gil.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 03, 2019, 06:36:00 am
Very nice find Gil.




Thanks, Jim!
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: txlabman on December 03, 2019, 08:37:04 am
Well done Gil!

Looks like there is still some work to do, but it is great to see it running.

This one definitely ended up in the right hands.

I hope you shared the video with the Seller.  He will be thrilled to see it running again.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 07, 2019, 10:56:27 pm
Hi Charlie, Yes, I sent him a link to the video.


Gil
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 08, 2019, 12:00:05 am
Today I spent a little time taking this neat little steam plant apart.


It required heating up old solder joints to separate the pipes for removability (is that a word?).


Once apart, I cleaned the boiler and the metal plate that holds it all together.


Then the fire grate got some cleaning.


I learned the square box under the steel plate is a water well as I suspected.
Unexpected was a bit of sophistication in the form of a float mechanism that would tell the operator how much water remained in the feed water supply tank.


Below is a short video along with some pictures of all the components.


https://youtu.be/8d1lgD6-WSQ


It almost looks organized...!


I lost this tiny pin. After taking the engine outdoors for a little more cleaning, on the way back in, I noticed the pin for the eccentric rod had gone missing and it is truly small.


I got lucky.....  I remembered wiping up a lot of crud on the work table where I was cleaning and picking up said crud with a paper towel to be deposited in the rubbish bin. I went there, found the paper towel all crunched and opened it slowly and carefully to avoid dropping the specs of crud. There it was.... among specs of dirt bigger than it. As I said, I got lucky this time.


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Next are pictures of the boiler and other components.




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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: St Paul Steam on December 08, 2019, 05:45:49 am
that plant is turning from a sows ear to a real gem Gil, fascinating stuff.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: jkbixby on December 08, 2019, 06:28:24 am
Impressive restoration Gil - well done!
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: CBWho on December 08, 2019, 07:48:14 am
Superb transformation!

Clearly a high end home build originally.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: txlabman on December 08, 2019, 09:38:27 am
It’s looking great Gil.

And a fun challenging project.

Thanks for the detailed pictures, video and descriptions.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Nick on December 08, 2019, 10:33:33 am
Great work so far Gil

Really glad we got to see more of this engine than just the Craigslist ad.

Any plans to fire it? Will this be a keeper? or a project to move on?
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 08, 2019, 10:57:22 am
Great work so far Gil (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji106.png)

Really glad we got to see more of this engine than just the Craigslist ad.

Any plans to fire it? Will this be a keeper? or a project to move on?


All is possible.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 08, 2019, 10:59:30 am
Next, I will clean the base better.


Gil
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 08, 2019, 04:13:02 pm
The cast steel base is now cleaned and gun blued. The pictures below show it in a mock-up and by no means near completion but is enough to give you the vision.

Enjoy!

Gil


First..... a reminder of where we started:


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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: MasonvilleEngines on December 08, 2019, 04:41:21 pm
Great vision given!
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Nick on December 08, 2019, 04:53:41 pm
Looking GREAT Gil! Sure is fun watching this project  ;D
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Roscoe on December 08, 2019, 06:23:11 pm
That’s quite the transition, looks good.
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: txlabman on December 08, 2019, 07:53:17 pm
Fantastic Gil.

It’s great seeing your restoration skills. 🤠
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: classixs on December 09, 2019, 10:18:23 am
Coming along very nicely Gil !
Will be looking forward to see it completed...and back in action  :)
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Steamloco on December 09, 2019, 10:26:28 am
Becoming a real gem!
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 14, 2019, 01:28:05 pm
A little cleaner....


And.... thinking of adding wood around and under the base plate.


(The wood you see here is from another project)


Gil




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Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: Nick on December 14, 2019, 03:00:30 pm
Looking better every time  8)  A wood base would really help finish this one off, doesn't look right without it
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: txlabman on December 14, 2019, 10:02:38 pm
Thanks for the update Gil.

You have saved another one for sure!
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: St Paul Steam on December 15, 2019, 07:24:52 am
I agree, the wood base really sets it off, this is really cleaning up well & is a lovely engine, I always enjoy a neglected but well built engine/plant being given back its former glory by someone with the exact right skills to do so, it is a joy for me to watch. great job on this one Gil !
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: oilfield_steam on December 20, 2019, 04:40:29 pm
Certainly worth what you paid for it  ;)
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 21, 2019, 10:39:10 pm
Certainly worth what you paid for it


Yes, it is... and.....

The work I have done so far is worth way more than I paid for it!

Gil
Title: Re: The Craigslist Twin Cylinder Steam Engine from New Jersey
Post by: RedRyder on December 21, 2019, 10:42:55 pm
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Working on soldering old parts together and piping.


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