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Title: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 22, 2020, 06:04:52 pm
Howdy fellers, been gone for a while suffering pain pretty bad.
Say a few years ago i seen a what looked like a steam engine that was run with water pressure, also seen a wood washing machine that ran from a water cylinder.
Anyone have any info about such a thing i`d like to make one, thanks.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: RedRyder on August 22, 2020, 08:08:12 pm
Hi Lenn, Great to hear from you again and I am glad you are still with us.
I recently sold a water motor that resembled a twin cylinder steam engine.


I think steamtoys (Ron) may have a couple early washing machine water motors.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: marv in minn on August 22, 2020, 11:32:32 pm
this is a model Schmid water motor that i have.
i have also included pics of the porting and cross section
also an original that i wish i had.

a video of one running on air( less messy :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45H6nNqgBg
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 23, 2020, 06:05:31 am
Thanks gents thanks for the info very interesting, here`s another model i found .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rol58h-ANSM

The one i`m looking for was just a straight cylinder that mounted on top of a wood washing machine.
I`d like to build a whole washer like it.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 23, 2020, 07:02:55 am
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/44/8c/6e/448c6e002d9f24bfdfebc39777cbe905.jpg

This is the cylinder i`m looking for.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: marv in minn on August 23, 2020, 07:30:04 am
these are agitator motors
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 23, 2020, 07:41:38 am
Cool beans Marv, that`s what i`m looking for.
Would you part with one ?
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 23, 2020, 07:47:56 am
This is a washer we made up i`m thinking of putting one of those on, it`s electric or hand operated now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGgHisxxXJA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 24, 2020, 06:18:19 am
At a dead end on this project no agitator motors available and i`m not sure how to make one.
No big deal i`ll figure something out someday besides i really don`t need one i have five or six old washers.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 25, 2020, 01:01:12 pm
For now we decided to make a all hand powered washer, it`s not done yet have to add a wringer.

(https://i.imgur.com/LiVcuEih.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/bj06Fudh.jpg)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Tadfafty on August 25, 2020, 02:03:59 pm
I've seen a lever powered hand washing machine engine before where the lever was on the front, and moved back and forth.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 25, 2020, 02:08:08 pm
Thanks, we`ve built these model also.

(https://i.imgur.com/xHsDCfjh.jpg)

Or this.

(https://i.imgur.com/Z2fEVBeh.jpg)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: marv in minn on August 25, 2020, 02:39:09 pm
over the years i have found some small wringers and washboards.
the larger one on the left says "take me when you travel"
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 25, 2020, 02:45:46 pm
Cool ones there, here`s some wash boards we made.

(https://i.imgur.com/QwD63lYh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0LrhLYth.jpg)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: classixs on August 27, 2020, 02:31:54 am
Interesting stuff those agitator motors Lenn  :)

Never saw one of those before, only turbine-types with relatively low torque.
Keeping my fingers crossed, that you manage to hunt one down for your project.

...but until then, you certainly should be able to keep the laundry-situation at bay as is, given the amount of options already at hand.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 27, 2020, 05:50:16 am
Thanks Jan.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: marv in minn on August 27, 2020, 08:52:19 am
White Showers oscillating sprinkler, i wonder what year?
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 27, 2020, 09:00:17 am
That`s interesting Marv, hard to find literature on some of the old stuff.
Been searching for days trying to find something about the agitator motor with no luck, i found one advertizing picture that showed the innards of one that used poppet valves.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 27, 2020, 11:51:44 am
Then it could be worse.

https://youtu.be/Cktn3ZgqwRY
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on August 27, 2020, 01:09:35 pm
Complete.

(https://i.imgur.com/PPQkEVEh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Yqaxaerh.jpg)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: classixs on August 27, 2020, 01:58:06 pm
The ultimate off-grid solution to a washing machine  :)

Well done Lenn!
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 15, 2020, 02:23:36 pm
Thanks everyone.  :)
Ron-(steam toys) sold me a water motor, thanks Ron and Gil for giving me a heads up.
It came today so we went to work on it, the leather cups were dried out and a couple other catches but we got it going and mounted it on a washing machine we built.

(https://i.imgur.com/DKlLMtth.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9YyuIQIh.jpg)

https://youtu.be/C03a7rf-Gpk

https://youtu.be/VKllGUHsppQ
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: classixs on September 15, 2020, 02:35:58 pm
WOW !!!

That´s absolutely right up there among the coolest gizmos i´ve seen...now i want one of those as well  ::)

Great job Lenn, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Nick on September 15, 2020, 02:39:14 pm
Put me on the list of wanting one too  :D  Don’t have a use for one, but I could watch that all day  :D

Very cool Lenn  8)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 15, 2020, 02:42:42 pm
Thanks Jan and Nick, i`m pretty tickled with it.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: steamtoys (Ron) on September 15, 2020, 03:34:29 pm
Lenn: Nice Video the Water Motor looks like it was meant to
be on your Washer. Sure looks better than sitting on my shelf.
If I should which I doubt come across another one should I
keep you in mind?  steamtoy  (Ron)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 15, 2020, 03:43:26 pm
Thanks again Ron you saved the day and please do.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Stoker on September 15, 2020, 07:35:13 pm
Cool Beans Pard .... and that's for certain and for sure!!!
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 16, 2020, 06:14:31 am
Cool Beans Pard .... and that's for certain and for sure!!!

Thanks much Daniel.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Swift Fox on September 16, 2020, 09:52:49 am
Love the water motor Lenn!, it is quite mesmerising to watch.
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 16, 2020, 09:55:23 am
Thanks much Swift Fox.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 18, 2020, 12:19:39 pm
I found that it will run very slow.

https://youtu.be/FtuZ-a7MQJM
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Stoker on September 18, 2020, 01:37:28 pm
Well now that's fully modern and up to date ....  you have a gentle cycle for delicate fabrics!
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Nick on September 18, 2020, 02:06:15 pm
Really nice and slow  8)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 18, 2020, 02:48:21 pm
Thanks gents.  :)
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: classixs on September 18, 2020, 03:49:23 pm
I am fully standing by my initial comment, but...

STOP SHOWING THAT MOTOR!!!

I´m getting to the point, where i consider cancelling my retirement plan to buy one  ;)



Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 18, 2020, 05:16:50 pm
Sorry Jan it`s irresistible, thanks. 
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: RedRyder on September 19, 2020, 08:11:57 am
Awesome rig, Lenn...!!!
I had seen your water motor in person but never saw one running before now.

Gil
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 19, 2020, 01:07:37 pm
Thanks Gil, we did a whole new mount today i think it looks better.

https://youtu.be/9Pym4-3Hdog
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Nick on September 19, 2020, 03:52:16 pm
Thanks Gil, we did a whole new mount today i think it looks better.

If you’re running low on laundry, we can send some up to ya!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: classixs on September 19, 2020, 04:54:22 pm
Looks great that you´ve lowered it onto the lid itself.

Can you open the lid when it operates?
Title: Re: Water pressure engines.
Post by: Pitchy on September 19, 2020, 05:12:51 pm
Looks great that you´ve lowered it onto the lid itself.

Can you open the lid when it operates?

Thanks Jan, i can open it part way but to open it all the way it has to be stopped.