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Title: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: RedRyder on September 27, 2020, 08:39:47 pm
This is a great rig and I decided it is time to polish what needs polishing. I got it at the Cabin Fever Auction some years ago.
I know it is in great shape as our friend Monte consigned it to the auction but it will still get a hydro test before a steam-up.


I believe the heaters are for 220 volts but not 100% sure of this. Tonight I wired it up for a test with a meter. Each heater draws 8.2 amps and about 940-960 watts. Together they drew 16.4 amps and over 1900 watts. (This was just beyond the rated limits of my Kill-a-watt but it was up to the task) This was on 120 volts ac.


It has a nice brass hand pump a little bigger than those available from PM Research and Stuart. There is also a great little Worthington Duplex Pump made from Coles Power Models castings. The immersion heaters are beasts.


After all the polishing, my hands are beaten and sore. Nonetheless a very enjoyable clean up.


Here are some pictures.


Enjoy,


Gil


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 27, 2020, 08:50:04 pm
Geez that boiler is a beast (what are the dimensions, just curious ?) it polished up well & has a old world vintage quality about it. very nice.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Nick on September 27, 2020, 09:02:19 pm
Wow, that looks great polished up  8)

Looks like it would be a nice boiler to have. Hope to see it in use after the hydro-test.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Jim on September 27, 2020, 09:51:41 pm
That's an impressive thing to behold Gil.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 28, 2020, 07:53:54 am
Geez that boiler is a beast (what are the dimensions, just curious ?) it polished up well & has a old world vintage quality about it. very nice.


Thanks, Bruce. The vessel is approximately 15"x 7".
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 28, 2020, 07:55:14 am
Wow, that looks great polished up

Looks like it would be a nice boiler to have. Hope to see it in use after the hydro-test.


Thanks, Nick. I believe I can find something to run with it.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 28, 2020, 11:42:26 am
That's an impressive thing to behold Gil.


Thanks Jim! It is a beast.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 28, 2020, 11:46:22 am
In better lighting I found just how much of a beast this thing is.

The heaters are made for 240 volts and 4,000 watts..... each!

The threads are 1 1/4 NPT.

I hope it proves usable on 120 volts.

Gil


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Stoker on September 28, 2020, 02:06:33 pm
A beast to be sure ..... but of all the folks I know, you certainly have reason to have such a large capacity boiler in house. I can picture the house lights dimming as you power that sucker up however!
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Steam Technology on September 28, 2020, 06:07:43 pm
if you are going to run them at 240v then the supply cord will need to be bigger, and your standard outlet will probably not hold up.
And please cover those terminals when running.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 28, 2020, 06:30:36 pm
Quite right, Dave. The plug and cord you see is only for 120 volts.
We have no standard plugs like you see here with 220 to 240 volts available.

It would require using an electric clothes dryer cord and plug.


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For now I will test it on 120 volts to see if that will provide enough heat for demonstrations.


I tested the safety with water pressure and it lets go at 50-60 psi.

Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: txlabman on September 29, 2020, 04:31:02 am
A great project Gil.

Glad to see it all cleaned up.

Charlie
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 30, 2020, 07:00:08 pm
Gave it a test this evening. Set up outdoors with a 125 years old 1/8 hp A J Weed piston valve engine that is pretty well worn (steam leaks right through even when not moving)


More to come soon.


Gil


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 30, 2020, 07:11:23 pm
Then I hooked it up to a 1/4 hp Sipp horizontal engine.


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Nick on September 30, 2020, 07:14:46 pm
Those both look great with that boiler, love the steam plume coming out of the Sipp  8)

I expect there will be a video  ;)
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 30, 2020, 07:16:42 pm
Safety valve opened up
right at 60 psi and cut off quick
as soon as I turned the throttle open.


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Stoker on September 30, 2020, 07:57:17 pm
That is certainly the Bee's Knees Gil ...... and one heck of a big bee it is too!!!
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: St Paul Steam on September 30, 2020, 08:58:56 pm
Looks like a mighty fine rig there , looking forward to the video.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on September 30, 2020, 09:51:17 pm
I have some video footage.
No time to edit yet.
Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Scorpion2nz on October 01, 2020, 12:30:17 am
A nice boiler the Gil

As for powering it you can always end it here as our standard power is 240 volts and our 3 phase is 480.
None of this piddly 110 for us

Cheers
Dennis
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: footplate on October 01, 2020, 03:29:58 am
Gil that boiler is a beautiful beastie.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on October 01, 2020, 10:25:34 am
Thanks, Daniel, Bruce, Dennis, and Kevin.


Next up is the video!


Gil
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on October 01, 2020, 10:26:48 am


As promised....

        The video:


https://youtu.be/dsX4L9j17vA
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Nick on October 01, 2020, 11:09:42 am
Great video Gil, really enjoyed the whole thing, but the best was the winding down at the end... what a lovely sound that Sipp makes

Liked your little rainforest in the bush too  :D
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Stoker on October 01, 2020, 12:00:22 pm
Man, that boiler really delivers, to be able to drive an engine like those and actually gain pressure while doing so!
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on October 01, 2020, 01:31:49 pm
Man, that boiler really delivers, to be able to drive an engine like those and actually gain pressure while doing so!


Yes, it is doing a great job and let's remember it is operating at about 1900 watts and that is less than a quarter of the 8,000 watts it is rated for at 240 volts.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on October 03, 2020, 05:12:21 pm
There will be another video coming soon.


Today (right now) I am testing this boiler with a 1/2 HP Sipp. I believe this is a lot more engine than it would handle with a real work load but for demonstrating it works nicely. It has been running for 1 1/2 hours and still going strong.


Here are a couple pictures of the set-up.


Gil


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Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: Stoker on October 03, 2020, 05:20:05 pm
OH BOY .... OH JOY!!!
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: St Paul Steam on October 03, 2020, 09:37:16 pm
Oh my....Mr. Beast boiler you have now met your match.
Title: Re: Cleaned up an Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago
Post by: RedRyder on October 03, 2020, 11:03:36 pm
As promised......


                 Another video.....


                               This time with a 1/2 HP Sipp steam engine ca 1895.




https://youtu.be/zRMWjLLhvgI
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: Nick on October 03, 2020, 11:45:52 pm
AWESOME!!! I really need to add a Sipp to the collection
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: Steam Technology on October 04, 2020, 12:05:55 am
Excellent video Gil, I enjoyed it immensly.
I realise the vid is about the boiler and it is a great performer but the sipp engine and the duplex steam pump stole the show for my money
You have to be pleased with all those on show..
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: RedRyder on October 04, 2020, 09:12:45 am
Excellent video Gil, I enjoyed it immensly.
I realise the vid is about the boiler and it is a great performer but the sipp engine and the duplex steam pump stole the show for my money
You have to be pleased with all those on show..


I am with you on this. A boiler looks and sounds about the same whether it is fired up or cool and sitting on a shelf. That is why I focused a lot on the the pump and the Sipp engine.
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: Stoker on October 04, 2020, 09:51:50 am
Most Excellent .... all the way around!
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: Maxwell on October 04, 2020, 10:42:14 am
Excellent setup, top class with that Sipp & steam pump; can’t get any better than that.
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: Tadfafty on October 04, 2020, 08:41:09 pm
Steam pump and everything, its something to behold.
Title: Re: Cleaned up Electric Boiler Rig I Brought Home about 5 Years Ago VIDEO w 1/2 HP Sipp Added..!!!
Post by: RedRyder on October 05, 2020, 07:37:16 pm
Thank you all...!!!


and I am glad you all enjoyed it.


Gil