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The Regular Stuff: Chat, Buy, Sell, Off Topic, etc. => General Discussion - Model & Toy Steam Engines – Stirling Cycle – Flame Lickers – Small Antique Originals => Topic started by: komet163b on January 01, 2021, 02:59:38 pm
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Good New Years day from Brooklyn...
Quiet New Years eve, as you might suspect.
I've put most of my steam engines on you tube
and now I'm thinking of steaming my Falk overtype
which I believe is around 90 years old. I've run
it with no problems on air, but never steam.
As it turns out, the person I bought it from,
on EBAY, had steamed it up and put the video on
you tube titled 'Large Unknown Model Falk Steam
Engine Running on Steam'. URL below...
https://youtu.be/Dq9q7OU6YKM
With these old engines, you never know when the
steam run you want to see will be the last one for
the engine. I've run it on air and seen it run
on steam (in a video). So the question remains...
To steam or not to steam...
Good Luck,
Wayne
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Wayne, I think tonite would be a great time to steam it...
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Hi Wayne, the picture and the Youtube video are two different engines... I would steam either one of them ;)
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I'm not afraid to steam any of my engines, the only reason I might be hesitant is because I don't want to clean up afterwards. Most anything broken can be repaired 😊👍
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OOps..This ought to be the right picture.
Wayne
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By the way, your engine came from a forum member ;)
Looking at your comment on the video from over a year ago, I think you’ve been wanting to steam it... ;) Fill-er-up and light the fire ;)
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Nice engine.
Nice chunk of amethyst, too.
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Thanks, guys.
Nick....Nothing getting past you.....
All I have to do is wipe it down (nice
original patina), fill it, oil it, choose
a burner, and away we go, I hope.
Hero.....You have good eyes. We used sell
crystals, mineral specimens, and all sorts
of worked stones at New York city street fairs
and flea markets. Used to be fun (mostly),
but not now and we have a rock shop load of
stuff in the garage and basement, leave aside
our own personal stash. Any time you want to
swap rocks for steam engines, let me know!
Comics and MARX trains, too! Can't take it
with me.
FYI....it is Brazilian Amethyst. I added a
couple of pix - one w/steamers.
Happy trails,
Wayne
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Nick....Nothing getting past you.....
All I have to do is wipe it down (nice
original patina), fill it, oil it, choose
a burner, and away we go, I hope.
So... is the water boiling yet? ;)
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Yes, steam it. That is my video on youtube, and i didn,t hesitate for a minute to steam it up. The only engine in my collection i haven,t steamed is my Stuart major beam, and i intend to do it when someone is around to help me lift the cover off!
Crazydoug
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Doug......thanks for the note. I've watched your
excellent video a bunch of times. I will steam it and
you tube it. I'm also making a powerhouse alcohol
burner for it - I have a gas burner but I'd like
to take the alcohol challenge first. No temperance
here.
However...
Yesterday an engine from Germany arrived after
nearly 8 weeks and the day before one came from
Vermont. You know how it is. These latest buys
push the others back.
Thanks,
Wayne
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Can’t wait to see what else you just received 8)
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Well....The time came to put up or shut up, or
to steam or not to steam, so lets steam it up!
First, a test on air, then a quick wipedown, water,
lube, and alcohol burners, and off we go. Quick to
steam, it runs pretty smoothly, fast or slow.
I'll do a what passes for a formal (I'm funny) video
as soon as I do a thorough cleanup. I'm very pleased
and know it was one of the best purchases I've made.
https://youtu.be/5uazb_oqDrg
A rebuild question. Anyone familiar with repairing the
sightglass that is missing parts on an engine like this?
Cheers (oh no, cultural appropriation),
Wayne
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Runs very nicely indeed Wayne :)
Not everyday one gets to see one of these under steam, thanks for sharing!
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Steaming this was the best part of the day. Period.
An EBAY delivery came and the item, a turntable,
was improperly set up for shipping and the tonearm
was ripped off. From the sublime to the ridiculous.
I sent a message w/pix to the seller...
Wayne
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A rebuild question. Anyone familiar with repairing the
sightglass that is missing parts on an engine like this?
Cheers (oh no, cultural appropriation),
Wayne
What exactly would you like to know about sight glass repair?
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It steamed really well Wayne. Congratulations.
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Regarding the sight glass repair...
I'd love to see a close-up photo of
a compete setup. The upper and lower
ends are there (the lower is loose
but doesn't leak). I will start to
look for a photo on my own but duties
call right now. If you have one, great.
Thanks for the interest,
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
could you post a photo of your broken water level? I will then see if I can help you.
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For your viewing pleasure... the sight-glass end.
Hope you have an easy answer.
Wayne
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Glad you finally steamed it up and got some video for us ;D
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I like the sound it makes ticking over. I don't think mine does it. Nice video, thanks for sharing.
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Jurgen....FYI, the lower sightglass fitting is now just a bit looser.
Oops, I barely touched it when cleaning. Thankfully, it still steams
ok. It will have to come out sooner or later.
Thanks,
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
as I see it, the water level of your machine is missing the pressure plate and the water level tube. I didn't understand exactly what was loose at the bottom connection. It can't be the connection to the boiler or you wouldn't have been able to run the machine. Therefore, I suspect that it is the small plate through which the tube is passed and to which the pressure plate is screwed. Once the pressure plate is screwed down, the problem with the loose part will be solved. However, I could be wrong about this. It is difficult to make a statement if you do not have the machine in front of you. I have attached a few pictures as examples of Falk water levels. Also links to the places where they were found.
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https://historytoy.com/spielzeug-Dampfspielzeug-Liegende-Dampfmaschinen-Falk-J (https://historytoy.com/spielzeug-Dampfspielzeug-Liegende-Dampfmaschinen-Falk-J)
https://www.stefans-oldsmoky.com/falk/falk-sammlung-collection/ (https://www.stefans-oldsmoky.com/falk/falk-sammlung-collection/)
Pressure plates are offered here in Germany so now and then on ebay. But maybe you have the possibility to make them yourself, or you know someone who can make something like that. You can also make the water level tube yourself. If you do not know how to do this, I am happy to send you instructions.
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Thanks for the pix, especially the one that matches my engine.
One difference - the guide rod under the piston rod does not
have a support at the far end. Could yours be an earlier
version? The smokestack looks simple - maybe I can make a
serviceable copy. The exhaust and governor, I'd need a photo
from the other side, and a couple more of your sightglass
from differing angles. Maybe I can cobble one together.
I'll also do more searching on the web.
As to the lower part of the sightglass. It has always been
loose. Now more so. At my last steaming it dribbled a bit but
not too bad. The fact that the engine ran is a testament to
the person who designed the running parts of the engine. It
is pretty easy to run - it even works a bit on my worn-out
68 year-old breath! Is yours noisy, in a mechanical sense,
when running?
I also finished the sightglass on my Weeden 661 - at 11pm.
Once you start it is tough to stop when the end is in sight(glass).
Check out the first run.
https://youtu.be/83quq8q5spI
Happy day,
Wayne
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Hi Wayne,
unfortunately I can't provide you with any more pictures. The pictures I sent you were taken exclusively from the websides whose link I posted. I do not have a single Falk machine myself. I exclusively collect Doll & Co. Steam engines. Since I often have to deal with missing or defective water level glasses when restoring my machines, I have acquired some knowledge in the field. Even if the water gauges of Falk and Doll differ externally, the principle is the same. I am sorry that I cannot help you at the moment. However, I will be glad to hear how your project is progressing. Often it is the almost hopeless things that really drive us. Simple can anyone!!
I see you have done a great job on your Weeden.Looks very good and runs great. I have no worries that the Falk will soon be just as shiny and running well.
Thanks for posting the video.👍👍
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Thanks for your words of encouragement. I'll
eventually find some good pix of the proper
sightglass installation. Until than, it stays
as it is - or the engine will no longer run.
I've added a video of my Doll - a number 511-3,
I think. A sweet little engine, I thin it is
close to original. Could you date it? I might
be wrong on the video description.
https://youtu.be/qjJHs9xqqt4
Love my DOLL,
Wayne
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A beautiful 511/3 you have there Wayne. Nice video of the machine running. I own a 511/2 myself and my machine is still missing the original chimney. Your machine is listed in the Doll catalogs from 1929 and 1937. However, the production period can be further narrowed down if your machine still has a Doll sticker. If this sticker is green with red DC, then the production period is between 1929 and 1936/37. If the sticker is black with gold DC, then the production was between 1936/37 and 1939. An overview of all Doll machines can be found here:
http://www.fleischmann-toys.de (http://www.fleischmann-toys.de)
Have a nice day
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A very big thank you. Green w/red lettering it is.
I'll take it as around 90 years old. A cute little
engine, my son says my mother would put it on the
fireplace mantle. It would look good next to her
other antiques, especially her Chinese brass (pre-WW2).
Wayne
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The fireplace mantle would not be a bad place. And if you then fill the boiler 2 thirds with water and fire up the fireplace, I mean really fire it up, then...
But you should first bring the Chinese brass to safety. 😂😄😂