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Builds, Repairs, Show Your Machines! => Restorations => Topic started by: yussufhippo on February 03, 2022, 06:36:41 am

Title: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on February 03, 2022, 06:36:41 am
Not quite sure if I have shown this engine her before.
Bought it a year ago (paid too much...). Only to find that it was not just used and sooty, but had suffered a severe burning and repainting and scratching and other forms of mistreatment...

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...and that the cylinder end cap had come off:
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I decided, in a fit of mild craziness, to a) get her running again, b) retain as much of the old substance as possible. Took me some weeks, this is what she looks now like:

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Looks a bit blotchy, but I am astonished about how much of the old blueing is still there. Sadly missing a chimney, water gauge cover and the "door" for the fire box (a shield cum handle attached  to the original burner, which I am desoldering at the moment)

Here the first test run - mind, the steam pipe has not been re-soldered yet:
https://youtu.be/z-iHaKCZBQE (https://youtu.be/z-iHaKCZBQE)

And her with the governor in place:
https://youtu.be/Cs2SmhL4RIA (https://youtu.be/Cs2SmhL4RIA)

Tank you for your attention
Thomas
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: Woe is me on February 03, 2022, 09:05:26 am
Hey Thomas,
That didn't turn out too bad. I have the same one here and it's missing a few original things.
The stack, front boiler support leg, and the burner are not factory issued. Like most of them
out there mine is missing the catwalk supports, your lucky there, you have yours. One other
thing I noticed different was the boiler endcap and the positioning of the site glass holes.
Yours run straight up and down where mine run on a 45 degree angle that puts the drain cock
in the bottom center. Now I wonder if someone took the endcap off and moved it on mine.
They're good running engines.
Thanks for showing it.
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: txlabman on February 03, 2022, 10:56:04 am
Nice job Thomas!

👏👏👏👏
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: tenniV11 on February 03, 2022, 11:38:23 am
Thomas - it looks much better than before and I hope you will find
the chimney. The other missing parts are not so important - on the other
hand the small lever must still be mounted. Still worth the efforts
to save a mistreated steam engine...
Greetings over the lake, Arnold :D
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: skeptic49 on February 03, 2022, 12:33:36 pm
Congratulations, a remarkable restoration.
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: RedRyder on February 03, 2022, 05:49:48 pm
The difference speaks for itself, Thomas.
You have performed a super nice restoration.
Very well done..!!

Gil
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on February 04, 2022, 05:47:37 am
Hey Thomas,
That didn't turn out too bad. I have the same one here and it's missing a few original things.
The stack, front boiler support leg, and the burner are not factory issued. Like most of them
out there mine is missing the catwalk supports, your lucky there, you have yours. One other
thing I noticed different was the boiler endcap and the positioning of the site glass holes.
Yours run straight up and down where mine run on a 45 degree angle that puts the drain cock
in the bottom center. Now I wonder if someone took the endcap off and moved it on mine.
They're good running engines.
Thanks for showing it.


Tommy, I have seen quite a few Carette engines which have the angled sight-glass layout. Perhaps a matter of the size (boiler diameter) they came in?
The boiler support pillar is partly melted away in the burning the engine must have suffered.
I still would like to get a fitting chimney...

Enjoy the steam videos now posted!
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on February 04, 2022, 05:49:22 am
Thank you all for your kind comments. I am quite pleased with the result myself.

I have just posted videos of the first steam test in the video section!
Thank you
Thomas
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: Woe is me on February 04, 2022, 09:13:43 pm
Hey Thomas, I'm going to throw a couple pics in here for you, hope you don't mind.
First pic is the front pillar, not as nice as your original one. Found a stack on
German eBay that someone is making and was close, kind of. It's a little lose fitting
so I folded some black heavy paper for both sides to shim it, works great. The last
two pics show the site glass angle and the replacement burner,(not original) that it
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Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on February 05, 2022, 03:13:03 am
Hi Tommy,
thanks for the interesting pictures!

The chimney looks good on this engines - the "crown" with the long vents is more of the Doll type (I believe the Carette ones had small round vents), but it definitely looks much better with such a fitting (that is: straight) chimney than without one...

The front support serves its function - the (original) one on my engine is half eaten away by the fire... Perhaps it was not Carette's best idea to pint the burner vent directly at these supports.

Regarding the end cap: a) so nice to see it with the water gauge cover! b) I do agree: it looks as if sb has rotated the whole end cap... But perhaps sb else has another photo for comparison.

All the best
Thomas
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on April 30, 2022, 10:55:59 am
For the records:

A friend in the Netherlands asked me (!) if he could make a replacement chimney for the Carette. Basically, because he wanted to test his technical skills. So I sent him some photos and measurements...

Amazing result, imho...

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Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: Steamloco on April 30, 2022, 11:02:46 am
He definitely passed the skills test. Excellent!
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: skeptic49 on May 01, 2022, 05:22:11 am
Superb! What a restoration!
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: Woe is me on May 01, 2022, 09:20:11 am
Wow Thomas, that stack is so much nicer than mine. It's better to have someone make it to fit than
buy one that's close. That's beautiful.
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: tenniV11 on May 01, 2022, 03:09:39 pm
Hi Thomas - better than new - I do know only one guy in Netherland
that can build this - #Rob van den Born - ??
Greetings over the Lake
Arnold :D
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: yussufhippo on May 02, 2022, 01:40:42 am
Hi Arnold,

good guess! I own two Märklin replica chimneys made by Rob - but this has not been made by him!

All the best
Thomas
Title: Re: Carette 105/5 "Lokomobile" (Overtype)
Post by: SolingerStahl on May 04, 2022, 02:29:24 pm
That Chimney looks FACTORY NEW...!
Great craftsman's work!
Would like he did one (or two) for me...  ;)