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7.1/4" Lister Locomotive
« on: April 09, 2019, 03:21:57 pm »
I made a start tonight on what will eventually be a 7.1/4" gauge lister look a like locomotive. With my pile of scrap metal collected from work over the winter I made a start on the chassis, turning 40mm box section into 40mm C Channel. 

There is also x8 peices of angle 6" long which will be for the corners and the axle hangers, just have to scrounge some more angle of the same to complete the chassis. 

The engine for this loco will be a Honda 5.5hp engine from a generator, which was kicking around at the back of someone's shed. The exhaust is knackard but that's of no consequence as the engine runs strong. This via belt drive will drive a 100amp car alternator, which (experimental for me) has had the rectifier removed. In its place a variable 12v input, will become the locomotives speed control. The alternator output, been wired straight to the motor via winch relays to alternate the direction of current, and subsequently forwards and backwards. I'll explain more on that when I get to it. 

For now lots of cutting, grinding drilling and bolting lay ahead. I also have two axles and four wheels to machine up from 6" dia steel, on my ML4, that might be quite a challenge. 

After the railway at Tees has been overhauled, it makes sense to have a loco of my own to run on it. 

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Re: 7.1/4" Lister Locomotive
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 04:32:25 pm »
You definitely need a loco now Jon what with all the work you've done on the railway and this looks like it's right up your alley with your skills - will be fun to follow along.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 04:42:31 pm »
I've drawn up the loco in fusion 360, so hopefully no surprises.

The steel been scrap material means I have an unwanted hole in the long sections for both sides, so I'll have to figure that one out at a later date. Maybe even make a feature of it, but we will see.

I also have plans for a Maid of Kent loco, and began to draw up a Garrett loco in fusion. But those two are long term projects and ones which will definately not be as quicker build as this loco SHOULD be. Lol

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Re: 7.1/4" Lister Locomotive
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 03:44:40 am »
I like the idea of a petrol electric loco John!

I guess if the electrics don't work you could always try making it manual transmission with chains/gears or even hydraulic. 

I forgot to mention we also have a portable 7 1/4" railway at APS which is used for open days and one of our volunteers made a very nice battery powered loco to run on it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 08:52:05 pm »
The cost of petrol electric, to an eaton hydrostatic unit, or even hydraulic system is the reason for choosing the drive system I have. Plus the power unit I'm hoping to make removable so easier to move around and transport if the loco can be disassembled easily. Much like Colin Edmundsons scamp loco of which much inspiration has been taken.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2019, 05:50:30 pm »
After grinding the profile, and making the box to a c channel the rough grinder marks were filed with a smooth file.

For a laugh I decided to lay the peices out, it measures 21" wide and 46.1/4" long. The end peices still need cutting to size and profiling. Having seen the size I'm now wondering if 3mm crossbraces will be sufficient thickness to hold the corners in place, there is a lot more angle to go in which will stiffen the chassis frame. I may cheat and weld the chassis yet rather than bolt, but this leaves little room for error when setting it up.

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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2019, 02:46:53 pm »
It all starts with a Frame . After all that track laying at your MES it is  time to build something to run on the renovated rails  I like the idea of a small Lister diesel . Small engines are avalable for a relatively cheap Price or a motorscooter /Moped power unit of any Kind is useable to Keep the cost low In 7.25 Inch the poxssibilities are  limitless and please Keep us posted About your efforts

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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2019, 04:15:55 pm »
This is a great project, Jon!


We are looking forward to your updates.


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« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 06:57:49 am »
Joe, I have the engine already, and I bought an alternator. So I only need to buy some electronics, wheel bearings and machine the wheelsets. I'll be cracking on with some more frame work tonight. Then the whole lot can be lined up and drilled for bolts. Though a welded frame is tempting as it'll be quicker.

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« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2019, 02:02:21 pm »
My gosh , you get straight Forward but for me it  is very amazing to watch an engine grow from a plan to reality ! A motor - electric Setup is an idea worth thinking of and
I am tempted to build a light Railway motordriven one too in the near future but I first have to get two Projects rolling before that !  Keep it going , Jon


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Re: 7.1/4" Lister Locomotive
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2020, 05:12:30 am »
Did you finish your loco? would be nice to see the finished product. been toying with the idea of making one myself. :)