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Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« on: May 18, 2021, 10:45:42 am »
It's going to be very interesting to see how the Pentagon's "declassified" report on the UAP's (UFO's) reads, to ameliorate their apparent total lack of being able to explain, let alone do anything about, whatever all this stuff is, that is able to move and maneuver beyond our current understanding of physics. 

60 Minutes just came out with a powerful segment on this issue, and Senators are calling for reports and transparency from the military, so it isn't just internet conspiracy theory and tabloid journalism anymore!

I "learned" a couple of new things I hadn't heard before in this 60 Minutes episode, like submarines have reported sonar tracking things doing hundreds of miles an hour underwater (far beyond anything our understanding of normal physics allows also), and there have been numerous incidents of these things transitioning from air to water and back again. Also that they are often seen as a "daily occurrence" in some restricted airspace!

Not covered in this report, but similar incidence were first reported in modern times by fighter and bomber crews in WWII, and there has been a continuum of sightings, though fewer reports due to social, political and employment stigma, which typically emanated from such reporting over the years, now finally coming out it seems. In point of fact there is perhaps a whole lot of such "report evidence" from ancient times as well that is definitely hard and ambiguous to decipher, but within context, is also hard to deny.

Plains of Nazca anyone!?!?!?

Interesting times we live in without a doubt, but I for one am more immediately concerned that these current manifestations are actually foreign power advanced technologies, than if they are possibly "alien" in nature. But that's a whole other discussion, of which I am prepared to enjoin as an unconvinced "believer", or serious skeptic depending.

Here's a link to Sunday's 60 Minutes report:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBtMbBPzqHY


Food for thought?
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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2021, 11:22:48 am »
A forever mystery - are we alone.

All very interesting and reminds me of the UFO craze in the 1960's.
We used to go outside and look into the night sky hoping to see one.

The military produced a report tilted, I believe, "Bluebook'.  Its
release(?) inspired a TV quasi documentary series.

Regarding high underwater speeds....Super cavitating torpedoes can
travel at, I've read, 250kph.  If a torpedo, why not a small submersible?

So, do UFO's exist?  The probability is high.  Are they extra-terrestrial
in origin?  Hmmmm.  Are they current-day terrestrial?  Hmmm.  Or, are
they terrestrials of a different, time?  Hmmmm.

And the big question, do they have any old steam engines in the attic!

Don't worry, steam happy,
Wayne 

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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2021, 12:17:38 pm »
There was a time where I watched "60 minutes" every week,  now I don't believe a word they say. The way I see it is , if a highly advanced "nether world" wanted to conquer or annihilate us , they probably could have at anytime. its nothing I'm going to loose sleep over.
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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2021, 03:04:55 pm »
There was a time where I watched "60 minutes" every week,  now I don't believe a word they say. The way I see it is , if a highly advanced "nether world" wanted to conquer or annihilate us , they probably could have at anytime. its nothing I'm going to loose sleep over.

Just the point I made Bruce .... if truly alien in nature, I'm not too worried as they've been around forever and not done much of anything too negative that I'm aware of. My concern is that they are the product of some here & now worldly actors, of whom we should be very wary and concerned!


Regarding high underwater speeds....Super cavitating torpedoes can
travel at, I've read, 250kph.  If a torpedo, why not a small submersible?

Supercavitating torpedoes do exist and can clock a couple of hundred miles per hour, so yep, that is possible, but only with a very thin elongated shape, unlike the "objects" in question, at this point in our "known" ability to do such things. Meanwhile, propulsion is very conspicuous, whereas these current reports suggest no known or visible form of propulsion. Not saying any of this can't be done, nor that there is nobody that can do it. But only that it is unknown to the current general knowledge base, so whoever is doing it, if actually real, clearly has a significant edge!

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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2021, 04:14:28 pm »
No visible means of support, or propulsion.
High maneuverability.  Hmmm.

I'm wearing a B-26 tee-shirt - a plane said
to have great speed and maneuverability but
(in early models) had little visible means
of support.  It had an off-color nickname.

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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2021, 05:29:57 pm »
B-26 .... hummmmm, now are you talking the Martin Marauder or the Douglas Invader?

High speed and maneuverable? Could they turn essentially 90 degree corners at multiple mach speeds?

Capable of changing altitude by 15 miles in a second or so?

No visible means of support? They had wings didn't they, albeit relatively thin, high aspect wings, but wings none the less.

Propulsion was obvious and traceable even with the technologies of their own days.

Guess I'm not understanding your comparison here?!?!?
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Re: Beyond the Tabloids and now in the MSM .....
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2021, 11:17:46 am »
  Marauder, of course.  The short-wingspan one.
And, of course, comparisons to UFO style
maneuvers and speed as reported are ludicrous.
Really, as medium bombers go, it was a fast one. 

  The airmen had to gripe about something and
the short-wingspan did make takeoffs and landings
exciting (dangerous).  They jokingly said it
had no visible means of support, and said it in
an off-color way, not unlike UFO's that make
'impossible' maneuvers.  Both, at the time of
observation, defied observed experience. 

Wayne

 

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