It's a real shame they're no longer being made--probably because of a much smaller profit margin compared to the Pacifica. I also have camped in the back on an air mattress at the Portland engine show which is fine in good weather. There were a few years where Dodge offered several engines in these vans around 2010, none of which were very good, but by 2012 they had settled on a good single design with good gas mileage to boot.