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It's raining and otherwise uncomfortably cold. I'm sitting here at my computer listening to music from Dire Straits. Time to go to the workshop and take care of a steam engine in need of restoration or introduce another of my old sweethearts ....

Bing 130/43 - Vertical Machine

The machine was manufactured between 1904 and 1919.

It's a bit strange how I got the machine. I bought a vertical doll steam engine. When the package arrived and I had unpacked it, surprise, surprise, there was no doll machine in it. It was a Bing machine. The seller had made a mistake while packing. I looked at the Bing Machine. Nice, very nice. I then called the seller ... In the end I had 2 machines, the Bing and the Doll.

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I mounted it on a beech wood panel together with a transmission from Wilesco, a man at the sawhorse and a scissors grinder (both from Arnold).

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The base plates of the drive models were completely rusted and one was already rusted through in two corners. The metal sheets have been dismantled, derusted and repaired the rusted areas with tin solder. The filing and grinding work to get the shape of the sheets exactly was a "lot of fun". The transmission from Wilesco was also badly damaged. The paint had flaked off in many places and the part was very unsightly.

My wife was of the opinion that since the base of the steam engine was partially painted green, I should also paint the base of the drive models and the transmission in the same green. The burgundy red of the flywheel would harmonize well with the green and so the middle part of the transmission was also painted in red.

Hmmm ... When the paint job was done, I had to admit to myself that sometimes it's good to listen to your wife.

The machine itself was in very good condition for its age. A couple of tiny flakes of paint on the base. All that was necessary was cleaning and polishing.


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I hope, you enjoy the pictures.

Jurgen you have a very good looking set up there. Your wife was right in choosing a color for those bases that
would compliment the Bings base. You did a great job reviving them and choosing a wood base to mount them on.
The railing is perfect for the frosting on this cake. Great job.

Hello Nick, Tommy and Jan,

Thank you very much for your kind words.

@Jan
from Wilesco is actually only the transmission. The drive models were sold by Arnold at the time (at least between 1946 and 1949). I don't know whether Arnold also made these. The time and place of manufacture of my two workers can be narrowed down by the imprint on each of the trouser legs above the shoe. It says: Made in US Zone. As a result, production can only have taken place between 1945 and 1949. The US zone was established in southern Germany after Germany's surrender in World War II and existed until the Federal Republic of Germany was founded. Wilesco (Wilhelm Schröder GmbH and Co.) was founded in 1912 as a metal goods factory.
However, Wilesco did not start producing model steam engines until 1950. Wilesco had and has always its headquarters in Lüdenscheid (Sauerland), North Rhine-Westphalia, which is not in southern Germany. The management of Wilesco says that their drive models are made by a small family business in southern Germany. My research has shown that this is the Josef Wagner company from Brunn near Nuremberg. Wagner has been manufacturing tin toys since at least 1969 as an independent company with old tools and molds , which were taken over or otherwise bought up by long-lost Nuremberg toy manufacturers.

Extract from: www.blechmodelle.com/josef-wagner/

"History of the Josef Wagner tin toy production

The last German tin toy manufacture is located in Emskirchen and is run as a family business by Josef Wagner. Josef Wagner uses original tools from the former tin toy manufacturers Tipp & Co., Blomer and Schüler as well as NBZ to produce wonderful tin toys. The quality is outstanding and the sheet metal models are a feast for the eyes. The company has been making models since 1969, and the tool was purchased in the 1950s and 60s."

I can only guess whether Wagner was active before 1969.

I'll add a few links.

https://www.servusmarktplatz.com/p/N%C3%BCrnberger-Blechkarussell/SM111592/

https://www.blechmodelle.com/josef-wagner/?p=2

https://www.wilesco.de/ueber-wilesco

VERY CLEAN AND NICE
YOU DID A EXCELLENT JOB!
Arnold

I am quite certain there is Jürgen, and please know that i don´t disrespect your "lesson" in any way, as it is full of great information.

Merely answered as i did, seing that it was tagged with my name specifically