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« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2021, 08:47:37 pm »
Rainer, not sure why you are saying that the circular cutter is not a steam toy?
As you see Brent shaper is very well detailed & fully functional. G. Carette made some amazing fully functional tools in the early golden years. These tools can run using any type of motor or engine.

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« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2021, 09:48:14 pm »
Mike,
I know nothing about the cutter although it looks like a steam to me. But the shaper certainly isn't functional as a shaper--yes, it can go through all the motions correctly but could never actually shave off slices of metal as a real shaper would. Too small and weak for that.

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2021, 02:08:53 am »
Mike, your CARETTE disc cutter is a real Jeweler's or Watchmaker's tool.
Its meant to be used professionally cutting out discs out of sheet metal up to 0.5mm thick cleaner than you could do it manually with a pair of sheet metal scissors.

Other with the french LABEUR / EDOBAUD disc cutter (Cisaille) of the 1920... this one was meant as a steam toy only...

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Same story with some kind of Watchmaker's Drill Press like the french RADIGUET... they look and are shurely also have been used often as steam toys recently, but back then they where meant do be used professionally...

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2021, 10:06:58 am »
Rainer , I invite you to start a thread of your own, showcasing your wonderful collection of accessories (because I know you have many) & I would really enjoy a detailed description of each at your leisure. 😊👍
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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2021, 10:26:45 am »
Bruce, in another forum across the big pond I used always to introduce my lates arrival of steam toy workshop accessories.
As this forum here is more focussed on engines I thought that accessories would not interest so much.
I tried two postings about a Marklin Saw and a Bing motor but got not so much feedback...
If you like, I will appreciate to show my accessory arrivals also here and if wanted also my old stock of workshop models.

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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2021, 11:25:39 am »

I am very interested in your accessories!

Please don't stop posting.

Best gauge of interest is not responses but views.

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Re: toy shapers by Carette, Marklin and Ernst Plank(?)
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2021, 11:53:40 am »
Mike,
I know nothing about the cutter although it looks like a steam to me. But the shaper certainly isn't functional as a shaper--yes, it can go through all the motions correctly but could never actually shave off slices of metal as a real shaper would. Too small and weak for that.

Agree - also if these drive models are cast iron and sturdy - they where produced as toys for kids and not
for real use. Well you may make a hole into wood or you may cut wood - but nothing else. The toys are only powered by spiral springs - it's also about safety. For example, I have a steam hammer from Stuart - it is really very solid - but you can't really form red-hot steel with it - haha

Arnold ;D

Congrats, these are beautiful Sharpers - and very hard to find!!!

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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2021, 12:19:00 pm »
Arnold, you may want to replace your Stuart hammer against this homebuilt massive iron Trip Hammer...
Approx. 3kg heavy and will shurely flatten a red hot nail...!  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2021, 01:02:30 pm »

I am very interested in your accessories!

Please don't stop posting.

Best gauge of interest is not responses but views.
I am very interested Rainer , sorry you didn't garner much interest the 1st & 2cd time , but try us again , I think we can do much better this time. 😊👍
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2021, 01:03:32 pm »
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I am with Charlie and the others.  Post all of the accessories you have.  I may not comment of them, But I will certainly look at them, study them, and appreciate them and you for posting.
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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2021, 01:41:30 pm »
Thanks Jim, posting them all at one time is impossible, because they spread around the house at several places...
Most of them have to sleep downstairs in the cellar shelf, but a few are placed in a bookshelf or temporary on one of the living room tables...

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Unfortunately Christmas is coming up soon and the table had to be emptied for the christmas tree that will take place there the next weeks...  :'(
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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2021, 03:14:26 pm »
Arnold, you may want to replace your Stuart hammer against this homebuilt massive iron Trip Hammer...
Approx. 3kg heavy and will shurely flatten a red hot nail...!  ;D

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Okay - homebuilt that's another story - but I have seen also a "Sachsenmeister" in your collection -
that is what I meant ;D  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2021, 04:23:50 pm »
Gueten Oobe Arnold,
although the SACHSENMEISTER is full restored, this weak air hammer will not even flatten a cardboard...  ;D

My cast iron 1890s Rob. ZINN eccentric hammer does a much better job...  8)

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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2021, 05:29:45 pm »
Very nice
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« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2021, 08:06:11 pm »
Rainer, Brent, Arnold, Maxwell, You all have some amazing accessories!

I hope I didn't leave anyone out.