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I'll follow that up with a K. J. Miller SE-100 Junior Engineer shown in the third configuration, that of a simple horizontal, but to make it more interesting I'll pair it with a small airbrush compressor to supply the air to power it.

The thing that makes this interesting is that the air compressor shown here is a K. J. Miller model 1000, which isn't really rare either, but is certainly not often seen, and is made by the same company as the steam engine.



It is very interesting and often seen, that rotational objects are not seen at the speed they are really going, and frequently are even seen to be turning in the opposite direction of their actual rotation, as is the case with the compressor's flywheel in this video.
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Love these engines Daniel and they’re very rare to me as I haven’t managed to add one to the collection... Was going to wait for a good one, but there’s always something else out there keeping me from buying one...
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Good ones do come up occasionally, but they truly are rather rare. More common are the ones with missing parts, cracked boilers and bent frame members .... don't bother asking me how I know this to be true!?!?

Plan on replacing the main seals on the boiler, but that's not hard so don't let that concern you.

Again, in my opinion, it is not that they are especially rare, though they are uncommon ....... but the main thing for me is that they are soooooooo incredibly unique!!!
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You have made a great presentation, Daniel.

It's also really nice that you took the time to give us some great reading material.

Thank you!

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Now, for my GRAND FINALE, late though it may be, let me present what I consider to be the finest JEWELS of my collection.

These little GEMS are decidedly rare, as they are almost never seen for sale, and though I have no idea how many of either were ever produced, I can assure you that it could not have been many, either in the original production in Japan, nor in the authorized copies later made in the UK by friends David (vpro) & Miles (logoman). I'm fairly certain that it was Miles that obtained the authorization to allow a copy to be produced, but David did all the superb tiny and intricate machining work to such high standards, that the copy is arguably much better than the original, which itself is truly superb.

These tiny treasures are four cylinder single acting engines with power way beyond their size or appearance, yet are very conservative of steam throughout their incredibly wide rpm range.

Clearly someday, I need to make actual use of one of these miniature machines that truly compliments its own qualities. But until that day they live a very sequester but certainly honored existence, as true "EYE CANDY'!!!

Here then, the Saito V4PR & TRIBUTE V4PR:



Once again, the camera lies, and you are best served judging speed by the sound these engines are making.

Clearly the Tribute engine revs significantly higher in the video, but I suspect there are two reasons for that. One is that the Saito engine is used, though not very, but likely has some old stiff steam oil lingering in its bearings and cylinders, while the Tribute engine has nothing but the lightest oil throughout. Also, the Saito engine's steam inlet is just slightly smaller diameter, thus pinching down the tubing just a bit more than it does on the Tribute engine.
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What a great table you put on for us all Daniel.
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Once again, the camera lies, and you are best served judging speed by the sound these engines are making.

That sound 😍 😍

and that trick of the camera is actually kinda fun to watch  8)
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Thanks for all the kind words from all who came to visit and comment!
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Enjoyed the video of the two Jensen 30.
When I bought my 30 in 1992 from a hobby store
I did not know much about Jensen steam engines
so I a rearer Jensen.

Do you remember the Hobby Store you bought it from?

Is it still in business?

It was Tecumseh, Michigan and I do not think it is business.
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Some great additions at the end...

Am equally intrigued by the KJ Miller "Junior Engineer" engines, both in terms of their variated setup, as well as their unique heating system.
Have a couple of the KJ Miller compressors here as well...or 3 in fact. 
Started by purchasing a 110V version, just because they were from the same manufacturer as the Junior Engineer. 
Upon its arrival, i noticed that the compressor itself, could be removed and used as a standalone accessory, to be driven by a steam engine, so had to import another for that.
Just a few months later, i discovered that KJ Miller in fact exported these to Europe as well back in the day, so my OCD naturally forced me to bag one with a 220V motor too, just have the collection "completed".

As far as Saito engines goes, i find that the brand generally is in a league of their own, and that the V4 demonstrates that more than most of them.
They´re just exquisite pieces of mechanical machinery, and the Tribute replica shown here as well is definitely no less in that regard.

Thanks for bringing these treats to your table as well Daniel  :)
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Daniel:

You presented a great table for GPU 2021.

Thank you,
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Some great additions at the end...

Am equally intrigued by the KJ Miller "Junior Engineer" engines, both in terms of their variated setup, as well as their unique heating system.
Have a couple of the KJ Miller compressors here as well...or 3 in fact.
Started by purchasing a 110V version, just because they were from the same manufacturer as the Junior Engineer.
Upon its arrival, i noticed that the compressor itself, could be removed and used as a standalone accessory, to be driven by a steam engine, so had to import another for that.
Just a few months later, i discovered that KJ Miller in fact exported these to Europe as well back in the day, so my OCD naturally forced me to bag one with a 220V motor too, just have the collection "completed".

As far as Saito engines goes, i find that the brand generally is in a league of their own, and that the V4 demonstrates that more than most of them.
They´re just exquisite pieces of mechanical machinery, and the Tribute replica shown here as well is definitely no less in that regard.

Thanks for bringing these treats to your table as well Daniel  :)

Thank you for your kind words Jan, astute observations and seminal additions as well.

While I am very impressed by the Miller SE-100 engines seriously unconventional approach to the entire concept of a model steam engine, it is also true that they really are not what I would call, great model steam engines, and are in fact a little "clunky" and not terribly good runners, needing lots of tweaking and TLC to get the best out of them. That being said, I still like them very much for their obviously unique features. The engineering forethought that went into their design is most impressive! I am also impressed with the Miller 1000 piston style air compressor, as being a very good and reasonably powerful air source for smaller painting operations. It seems fully the equal of my Binks diaphragm style compressor, which was considered state of the art for model airbrush work in the long ago when I bought it, but it is still far younger than the Miller compressor, though not really far better. Seems a good solid unit that I'll likely put to the use it was intended for someday.

Saito sits at the other end of the spectrum for me. They are of a quality that belies their typically smaller size. After WWII, and all through the 1950's I clearly recall the term "Made in Japan" was nothing less than a joke, but by the 1960's and since, that had turned around to the point where the joke is on us.

Since the late 1960's I have collected imported model brass trains (in HO scale), and the craftsmanship and artistry exhibited in those has clearly exemplified the exceptionally high standards of Japanese manufacturing capabilities, even though only done at a cottage industry level. Then, of course, my years in Metrology and other engineering related fields, has shown me the great strides the Japanese took in providing quality tooling and instrumentation in those fields, which is almost mind boggling! Mitutoyo, and many others, comes to mind here!!!
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What fitting engines to wrap up your table Daniel, a most superb ending to unusual pairings , a joy to share in , thank you.
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