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Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« on: September 19, 2023, 12:45:22 pm »
I have been reading a small pamphlet that I recently received, which in part relates the general specifications of a good sized and fully modern (at that time) manufacturing plant in the Berlin - Karlsruhe area. As a prominent part of their promotional scheme, they seem to eagerly list the details of the plant in order to show potential customers of their production capabilities.

Here then is a brief synopsis of that facilities infrastructure:


"The Berlin works ... are located in Martinikenfeld. They cover about 48,000 square meters of ground. 25,300 square meters are covered by buildings, most of which being several stories high, 36,000 square meters of floor space are thus available for working purposes."

"Power is supplied by 5 Steam Engines representing a total of 1560 HP."

"There are also 9 Dynamos and 20 Electric Motors."

"Steam is generated by 11 Boilers having 1504 square meters of heating surface."

"The total length of shafting is about 2500 meters."

"... over 3,000 machines are in operation, most of these machines being of special pattern and designed with the view to accomplish their various purposes in the best and most economic manner."



All of that is for just one of three plants whose specifications are individually detailed in this little pamphlet.

I have seen photos of such a plant from back in the day, and the amount of belting coming down from the ceiling mounted shafting is simply staggering and must be reckoned in miles, or rather in Kilometers for this German plant.

Here's an image of just part of one floor of just such a manufacturing facility found on the internet:

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Notice the age of many of the "workmen" and also the number of stepped pulleys both on the shafting above and the machines themselves, allowing for "gear changes" to provide for different operations on many of the machines.

I wonder how many of us today would have made out, in making such a living?
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2023, 01:23:08 pm »
That's a great industrial age photo. Child labor was the norm at the time. The pulley system and belting are remarkable and the machines gave inspiration to many of the miniature replicas we enjoy today with our model engines.
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2023, 03:46:53 pm »
I wonder how many of those young boys got called up in the Hitler military 
Youth service.?
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2023, 04:11:07 pm »
I wonder how many of those young boys got called up in the Hitler military 
Youth service.?

Probably none, as they would have been in their 50's and 60's by the time that rolled around and employed in desperately needed, indispensable "defense" industry jobs!
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2023, 05:42:16 pm »
I wonder how many of those young boys got called up in the Hitler military 
Youth service.?

Probably none, as they would have been in their 50's and 60's by the time that rolled around and employed in desperately needed, indispensable "defense" industry jobs!
they took young & old; they took them right off the production line figuring the war effort more important...much of their undoing.
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2023, 06:14:39 pm »
I wonder how many of those young boys got called up in the Hitler military 
Youth service.?

Probably none, as they would have been in their 50's and 60's by the time that rolled around and employed in desperately needed, indispensable "defense" industry jobs!
they took young & old; they took them right off the production line figuring the war effort more important...much of their undoing.

Late in the war, they did take everybody, because the factories were often pretty well bombed out anyway, but in the early going, they needed all the production capacity that they could muster, so many trades were deferred.

However, the point I was making is that the pamphlet I was reading was circa 1895, and I think the photo is from the same era, such that the boys in the photo would have been way too old (50's & 60's) to get called up into the Hitler Youth, by the time that became a thing in the late 1930's!

Just sayin' is all.
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2023, 10:28:13 am »
Keep those neckties well tucked in! If the machine gets hold of it... you don't have anything else to worry about.
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2023, 12:10:09 pm »
Cool photo.  Hi-quality, a real glimpse of life at the
turn of the century.  Many of those pictured probably
fought in WW1.

Bret...as to the 'neckties' danger, you are sooooo right.
It wasn't a necktie but my long hippie hair that got caught
in a drill press.  Thankfully, the switch was right there
and there was no damage - just a valuable lesson learned.

Also, that photo makes me think of the furniture maker Otto Berg
who lived a few doors from me in Hyde Park.  His shop in the
1960's looked like something from a history book.  All the
machines were run from a huge electric motor powering belts over
ceiling axles.  He was old old when I met him but he still worked,
specializing in reproductions whose measurements he took, generally,
from museum pieces.  He was a true master and a real Hyde Parker. 
Mrs Eleanor Roosevelt sponsored woodworking classes he gave during
the depression. His true mastery, as I was told by others, was in
they way he did the finishes.  Beautiful works-of-art forever.

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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2023, 07:37:51 pm »
Certainly, it was and is very necessary to use extreme caution working around such machinery, and most especially back in the day when those belts could also pull you into a pulley with irresistible force, much to your detriment!

I know my Lady has a finger that doesn't work so well any more, but she is very lucky to still have it, along with the rest of her hand, because she was wrongly wearing gloves while operating a Drill/Mill set-up as a second operation, while running an injection molding machine, hence the gloves. But those two production operations should not have been attempted side by side, and her finger paid the price by the glove getting snagged by the bit and wrapping her finger up around the base of the chuck!

OUCH!!!

Death and dismemberment awaited any who worked in such a shop as is pictured, even without the belts and shafting. It was, is and always will be very necessary to keep your wits about you at all times in such an environment!!!
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Re: Manufacturing in the late 19th century
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2023, 07:47:10 pm »
Hummmmm ......... guess I shouldn't have attached the photo, as it seems that everyone is only focused on that, which is certainly interesting on many levels and probably even representative of the plant being described.

However, what I was really trying to call attention to is the technical specifications that the manufacturer was trying to promote to show the capabilities of their manufacturing plant as a means to draw potential customers. It should be especially noted that this particular brochure was produced in English, while it is also likely that it was produced in other languages as well, thus we are talking here of a corporation with international reach!

What I found particularly fascinating was that they listed their plant's specifications right down to the heating area of their boilers, which back in those days would be understood by anyone so involved, as representative of the plants overall power capacity and potential. Five steam engines with a combined output of 1560 horsepower means five BIG steam engines, needed to drive the over 3,000 machines that they reference, as well as drive the nine dynamos to create the electricity for the twenty electric motors that they seem to almost brag about, thus showing how fully modern they are at that time!

This was undoubtably a big scale business that employed thousands of workers, many of them highly skilled engineers and tradesmen, and thus would be a hallmark of a technically "civilized" society, no doubt foundational in the stability of the country and its government back in 1895.

Better living through Industry as the saying goes!!!
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