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Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« on: April 18, 2020, 01:51:27 pm »
With some encoragement from the folks here i bought a Bengs modellbau 'Karl' hit and miss engine kit, as i don't have a mill and this kit comes with all the milled parts then i hope it is going to be a good first engine to build.

Didn't take long to get here, this morning i found a heavy box in my porch :-)  So everything i had planned for today got postponed and i waded in.

Everything looks good, the base is heavy with no blow holes in the casting and all the parts are numbered and vacuum packed.  The instructions/drawings leave plenty to the imagination but that is half the fun to figure it all out.

Anyways, i couldn't resist and made a start on the crankcases.  There is quite a bit of flash on the brass parts where they have been cut so i started by dressing this off with a file.



Then using a sharpie marker for engineers blue i started marking the holes to be drilled.  At this point i realise how cruel age has been on my eyesight, but soon i had enough fairly accurate holes to bolt the two halfs together so i could file both crankcase halves to be identical...ish



Using a socket as a guide i drilled and tapped the main bearing caps, good old fasioned pillar drill and digital engineers level was a life saver here to get the holes vertical and true.



More drilling and tapping and only one M2 tap broken off in the hole with could be punched out of the brass with no lasting damage





Before my wife realised something was going on in the garage both crankcase side plates were done.



Next job was to join the two halfs, to my suprise it turned out square and level, turning out to be quite a good day!



As luck seemed to be on my side today i turned both faces of the baseplate on the lathe and drilled the mounting holes.





I guess drilling and tapping the faceplate of my lathe to mount the base for turning will make all you engineers out there cry but it got the job done :-)

Before i knew it was 7 o'clock and time to quit, but i had a really fun day doing the easy bits and at the end i have the crankcase bolted to the base and all is square :-)



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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2020, 10:09:08 pm »
looks really good so far Ade...I'm on the edge of my seat for more pictures :)
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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2020, 10:53:07 pm »
The fact that you made the time to work on it and seeing the progress that you made on it speaks volumes for the Quality and Your Enjoyment!!!

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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2020, 09:17:59 am »
Looking good and Thanks for the pictures! You should have this finished by this afternoon  ;)  :D
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2020, 10:04:32 am »
It's looking good and I'm enjoying this thread Thanks.
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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 10:38:48 am »
Off to a really great start - looking forward to following you through this build.
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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2020, 01:31:05 pm »
Found my first major issue today, thought i would see how i got on with the cylinder jacket and liner. 

I would like to make this a water cooled hopper type engine rather than air cooled, there is some pictures online of a lovely job someone has done on one of these engines with hopper cooling and it is very inspiring, plus after the M90 i realise these things get hot if you work them.  I don't have a real plan so drifted into machining the jacket and liner.  The plans step the liner about halfway down so the liner is trapped between the cooling jacket and crankcase, i decided to reduce the length of the step but keep the same way of retaining the liner, with the jacket holding the liner in place at the rear and a 3mm lip to hold the front of the liner allowing me to hollow out the centre section of the jacket for the water cooling.

Machining the liner went well



As did the jacket



Got a perfect fit of the liner in the jacket, more by luck than good jugement  ;)

It was then i noticed the problem, the inside of the liner is 'supposed' to be finished as supplied, but running my finger around the inside revealed a raised flat spot where the tube was welded dagnabbit!  Another mod i had planned was to use piston rings and and aluminium piston rather than the rather odd and heavy looking affair outlined in the plans, to do this i ordered a pair of the 25mm rings that Bengs offer, and this is my problem, the bore is already 25mm so i have no room to clean up the ridge in the bore.  I don't think a hone will remove the ridge before oversizing the bore, so i either have to order another liner from Bengs and hope it is better or make a liner from scratch, any advice here would be gratefully received  :)

This picture does not show it too well, but you can just see the weld undercut on the right



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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2020, 01:40:04 pm »
Hi,
 Please keep posting your progress! I have used DOM tubing as liner with some success, not sure that this would be any advantage than ordering part from Bengs.

Len.

http://www.speedymetals.com/information/material17.html



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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2020, 03:21:43 pm »
Hi,
 Please keep posting your progress! I have used DOM tubing as liner with some success, not sure that this would be any advantage than ordering part from Bengs.

Len.

http://www.speedymetals.com/information/material17.html

Thanks for the info Len
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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2020, 03:37:20 pm »
More screw up Sunday.

No broken taps today, but i got impatient waiting for the reamers i ordered to arrive and i found an old prop reamer which i thought was metric, haha it did a lovely job reaming the cam, only trouble it must be imperial as the hole i made was too big for the shaft, oh well ream it out bigger and make a sleeve for the shaft.



While i was on a roll i found a bearing and made the cam follower



and the camshaft bush, think i will wait for the reamer this time :-)



The plans/dimension drawings are all jumbled up with non related items on each page which makes finding parts in a logical order very hard, so i'm trying to knock off the obvious items first so i can cross them off the plans to make finding dimensions for parts i'm working on easier.



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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2020, 07:32:59 pm »
Interesting project and you have made a quick start .
As for drilling and tapping your face plate ?? Nothing wrong with that as I  have  seen many a face plate with tapped holes in it .

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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2020, 02:08:34 pm »
I don't feel so bad now Dennis :-)

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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2020, 09:26:48 pm »
looks GOOD.Jin

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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2020, 10:42:06 pm »
Great job and following with interest.

I bought the Danni years ago and quickly realised it was beyond my skill set.
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Re: Bengs Modellbau 'Karl'
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2020, 11:57:51 pm »
I would like to thank you all for your kind words of encouragement  :)

Probably won't get much done in the week because i am still working, for my sins.

Hopefully the paint will arrive tomorrow and the reamers before the weekend, fingers crossed.

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