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Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« on: January 07, 2023, 01:16:41 am »
Horizontal twin cylinder engine model (H76)


This is a horizontal double cylinder gasoline engine, which is made of brass and stainless steel.
It is cooled by water circulation, with radiator and water pump. The ignition system uses our
newly developed electronic distributor
Use 4.5V power supply
Its dimensions are 180MM long, 130MM wide, 110MM high and 2400G heavy
This is a perfect mechanical handicraft. It can work normally when adding fuel.
You will be fascinated by its sound!
https://www.ebay.com.hk/itm/155345460271


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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2023, 02:54:53 am »
love the camshaft placement! very cool engine!

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2023, 02:28:52 am »
Some photos showing more detail.










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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2023, 01:46:23 am »
Excellent photos!

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2023, 04:31:28 pm »
It seems to me that this engine is a cheap Chinese copy of Doug Kelley's "Titan" engine and has nothing to do with functional modelling. Absolutely tasteless. It is probably only of interest to collectors who cannot build such engines themselves, but they are not model builders. Look at the model of the "Titan" that Joe Higgins built from Dough Kelley's design and you'll see the difference. I also noticed that 90% of this forum is all about Chinese copies of proven American stationary engines (e.g. by David Kerzel, etc.), which I find very unfortunate as a model builder, since there are a large number in the USA of interesting stationary engines, which are worth replicating. Are there no more model builders in America, only buyers for such soulless models? No offense, but that's been on my mind for a while.
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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2023, 07:12:23 pm »
Yes, there are quite a number of exceptional model builders of the type and quality that you seem to reference, here in America. However, it is a very small percentage of the population which is capable of precision machining and design work at any functional level, and those that are so capable typically only build one-offs of any given design, which means that the pricing of such a model is far outside the ability of the average "collector" to even consider such a purchase, let alone the purchase of several different such models. There are many Americans that do wish to experience the joy of ownership and the fun of operation of such wonderful little machines, even if only those that are far from the standards of the top machinist/modelmakers. Affordable copies of lesser quality that are still functional fill a need that no dedicated precision modeler is likely to try to fill, as they are building to a level of precision that is unavailable and unaffordable to the vast majority of those who want, but do not possess the time, equipment nor ultimately the rare skills to do it themselves.

We have gone around and around on this issue a number of times, and we keep circling back to the point that those who can, will make their own regardless of what is available from other sources, but those who cannot must be glad that affordable options are available!

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2023, 03:36:58 am »
I thought the "Office of Steam Forum for Model & Toy Steam Gas & Hot Air Engines" was more of a model builders forum and less of a collectors forum. I was wrong, since the majority of forum members apparently belong to the "collectors" branch & the products from China determine the price and quantity of the offer, which I think is a shame.
Greetings Karl

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2023, 04:46:31 am »
Many of the people in this forum who collect toy steam engines are not machinists.  Not all of us have the skills, and some of us do but have either aged out of the ability to build engines, or have no hours in the day to spare for such projects.  I’ve said many times that the running IC gas and steam engines that Jin produces are an incredible value in both money and time… as any machinist knows.  He fills a need, and his efforts are much appreciated. 

Check your PMs, there is a link for you.

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2023, 07:56:55 am »
I thought the "Office of Steam Forum for Model & Toy Steam Gas & Hot Air Engines" was more of a model builders forum and less of a collectors forum. I was wrong, since the majority of forum members apparently belong to the "collectors" branch & the products from China determine the price and quantity of the offer, which I think is a shame.
Greetings Karl

I collect vintage toy steam engines and less than 1 percent of my posts are about the Chinese engines 😉
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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2023, 08:49:18 am »
Hello Nick,
I don't want to step on anyone's toes here. I have nothing against collectors either, but if I look at the last 10 posts in the "General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression - etc." look, 8 cases (80%) are articles about Chinese engines & I find that a bit strange.
Greetings Karl

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2023, 09:00:38 am »
Hello Nick,
I don't want to step on anyone's toes here. I have nothing against collectors either, but if I look at the last 10 posts in the "General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression - etc." look, 8 cases (80%) are articles about Chinese engines & I find that a bit strange.
Greetings Karl

There’s one great way that you can change that, share posts of your builds  ;)
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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2023, 09:14:01 am »
Hello Nick,
I don't want to step on anyone's toes here. I have nothing against collectors either, but if I look at the last 10 posts in the "General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression - etc." look, 8 cases (80%) are articles about Chinese engines & I find that a bit strange.
Greetings Karl

There’s one great way that you can change that, share posts of your builds  ;)

Great suggestion Nick!

We are always WOWed by amazing builds and quality workmanship, and definitely recognize how rare and wonderful such machines are to behold!!!
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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2023, 04:09:27 pm »
......but if I look at the last 10 posts in the "General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression - etc." look, 8 cases (80%) are articles about Chinese engines.....

Extending the search a bit, I went back 19 pages to June 4, 2019 and the majority of conversations have been about manufactured Chinese engines.

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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2023, 04:30:10 pm »
As I said, the forum is what you make it… If I had the skill to build or the pockets to collect I would flood the forum with pictures and videos of other engines till you guys were sick of seeing them   ;)
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Re: Horizontal Two cylinder Engine H76
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 04:57:59 pm »
Hello Nick,
I don't want to step on anyone's toes here. I have nothing against collectors either, but if I look at the last 10 posts in the "General Discussion - Scale Model Gas Engines - Hit & Miss - Throttle Governed - Non-Compression - etc." look, 8 cases (80%) are articles about Chinese engines & I find that a bit strange.
Greetings Karl

Well Karl get posting mate, we'd love to see your workshop, your creations and videos of them working.
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