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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2023, 10:58:13 pm »
My thoughts exactly. I’ve ordered a piece of Teflon Ptfe from eBay.

I had low compression on the front cylinder of the Knucklehead.The piston o-ring apparently was pinched during assembly. When replacing the ring I noticed the scoring in the cylinder wall. Enough you can feel it with your nail. So I took the old ring and cut it in smaller pieces and fit it into the piston pin opening on each side. I’m pretty finicky about things.

When I get the Teflon I will cut the discs and put them in the R31.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2023, 09:10:34 pm »
I put my engine aside and thought to focus on something else.
Mine doesn't start and it is the faulty camshaft. Needs the upgraded one($20) but can't be bothered to wait for Jin. If someone wants it I'm happy to sell it for $300USD plus international shipping through PayPal.  Could do with a better home  :)  feel free to PM me

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2023, 05:23:19 am »
An update on the R32, couldn't be ignorant towards the engine and the itch to make it work again didn't stop. So I ordered the new camshaft which basically has more pronounced middle lobes.
Despite that still struggling to make this run on both cylinders.

I am aware of another case of the struggle but is there anyone else who bought this engine and having issues getting a stable and reliable run out of it ?

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2023, 10:42:57 am »
Hi Engine-Man,
I have the IR31 Shovelhead. I bought the new cam thinking it would idle better. The first tank of fuel it ran great. After the third tank it quit running. I discovered the lobes were wiped on the new cam. Too soft maybe? So after cleaning out all of the debris in the cavity I put the original cam back in and with much frustration and work it seems to be running on both cylinders for now. I’ve found the valve clearance is pretty critical. About a 1/2 mm seems about right. And the carb is extremely touchy also. So disappointed about the new cam.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2023, 07:57:26 pm »
That's really bad the new cam worn off. Brass is not the right material for gears. I would have asked for a refund to be honest.
One thing I noticed on mine was the vavle covers in the  crankcase were not moving up and down easily . I have to sand them off to have a free movement. I think that might have caused the wear on yours and mine.

New cam shaft seems to holding okay. How do you set the valve setting? Through the screw on the lifter at the bottom?

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2023, 08:30:19 pm »
Hi, yea I can’t figure it out other than the brass was to soft. The old cam is worn a little but not too bad. I purchased the new cam because the new I read was supposed to give you a better idle.

The pushrod tubes have a threaded bottom section that I guess is supposed to screw up far enough to adjust the valves. Won’t screw up far enough on mine. So I pull the rocker box and put one pushrod in at a time, put the cover back on with a couple of screws and adjust the tiny screw on the lifter. They are loctited so you may have to heat them a bit. I’m sure they would twist off easily. A pain but that’s how I do it. I hope this helps. My lifters seem to be not sticking. The old cam still works and not getting the lobes destroyed so idk.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2023, 10:36:35 pm »
Hey guys,

I’ve lost another 10 hours of my life trying to get my R31 to run correctly. 😩

Ive never have had a miniature engine that I couldn’t get running correctly, with some work and time, but my god - I’m about to give up. Don’t wanna know how many hours I’ve put into mine, and simply can’t get my R31 running on both cylinders.  The tank side cylinder runs strong, but the opposite cylinder refuses to run.  Strong spark at the right time, correct valve clearance, compression, I just can’t figure it out.

Gonna tear the engine down completely and see what I can find out.  So far, the new cam hasn’t worn.. but will be watching it closely.

I absolutely love my R29 Knucklehead.  It’s got easily over 40 hours on it, and it’s a “one flip wonder”

I had such high hopes and excitement for Jin’s R31 Shovel. I chose it over Jin’s  Panhead.

Just bummed 😔

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2023, 08:51:33 am »
Hi there, I’ve marked TDC and BDC for each cylinder on the flywheel. Checking the exhaust valve there is at least 20% difference when the exhaust valve starts to open as if the cam is ground in correctly. After trying the cam in different positions I finally got mine to idle decent. It still seems to favor the rear cylinder but the front cylinder will start to fire after warming up a bit. Kinda disappointed too. Nice looking engine but finicky.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2023, 06:21:45 pm »
I personally think the whole cam design is flawed specially for a vtwin engine
Not sure how much this particular ignition timing is affecting the overall performance as well.
 I messaged Jin to see how he can help .

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2023, 08:52:13 pm »
I found also if I don’t keep a fan keeping the side of the engine that has the hall sensor it will start missing and quit. I have more of Jin’s engines so I switched ignition modules and hall sensors and the same results. I don’t have that problem with my Knucklehead. Seems this engine heats the sensor more. With the fan blowing on that side it keeps running. Another flaw.

I hope Jim can help. Keep me posted.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2023, 10:39:04 pm »
Funny you mentioned hall sensor. Now i have very intermittent ignition.  It quits after 4-5 ignition cycle. I noticed the engines gets quite hot even when it ran on one cylinder. And I turned on Mt desk fan to cool it down. The heart transfers quickly to the components under the base too.

I was thinking shovelhead would have any potential issues of knuckle head ironed out but it seems just a rushed product.


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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2023, 06:26:09 am »
Hey guys, I got a message from Jin and he said they are working on a stainless steel cam for the Shovelhead. So maybe there’s hope! No ETA just said it takes time.

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2023, 06:34:00 am »
We need to make list of us and he has to send new cam shaft free of charge. Buy at least he's learning

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2023, 07:08:10 am »
There’s a lot of these engines being sold on EBay. I asked for a refund for the defective cam but he mentioned nothing of that. So I don’t think that will happen. 😟

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Re: Microcosm Shovelhead R31 engine
« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2023, 12:24:06 am »
Another 4 hours piddling w’ my R31 went by yesterday, with still no luck getting it to run on both cylinders.  I’m seriously at the point of buying another R31, and hoping this one runs and a stainless cam will be available.

Never have been stumped with an IC engine like the R31.. I’m 41 and have been taking apart engines since I was 6 years old.  People in the neighborhood would give me their old lawn engines when they’d buy a new mower.  Best “toys” I had as a kid