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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2019, 09:26:29 am »
I am sorry because of the weight of the marble board we have to consider the transportation cost. Jin
...lol, I was just speaking openly Jin, I would never expect you to supply such a thing.
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2019, 03:41:50 am »
Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine upgrades electric start
Try starting the vertical engine with a motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PS4VJPTcg&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2019, 07:03:10 am »
Is it that hard to start that is needs this electronic starter Jin ? speaking only for myself , I'm very turned off by the big starter gear over that beautiful flywheel, if it absolutely needs a starter motor...perhaps maybe a less intrusive ring gear on the "inside" of the flywheel & maybe a starter generator set-up , or possibly a groove cut in the flywheel & a easily detachable drive belt & starter. I know this is a public "work in progress" & I appreciated that insight very much.
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2019, 07:11:49 pm »
I’d have to agree with Bruce......the Gear is a big negative for me. Have you thought of integrating a domed “spinner” on the center of the flywheel that you could use with a handheld electric motor with rubber cup that would spin the spinner to start the engine - the way model airplanes are started? 

Love the engine BTW!  Thanks for showing it!
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2019, 07:58:15 pm »
How about a simple rope start pulley. I have several small hit miss engines that I have added a small pulley for a simple rope starter. Works well and doesnt distract from the nice looking flywheel.

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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2019, 09:18:39 pm »
Is it that hard to start that is needs this electronic starter Jin ? speaking only for myself , I'm very turned off by the big starter gear over that beautiful flywheel, if it absolutely needs a starter motor...perhaps maybe a less intrusive ring gear on the "inside" of the flywheel & maybe a starter generator set-up , or possibly a groove cut in the flywheel & a easily detachable drive belt & starter. I know this is a public "work in progress" & I appreciated that insight very much.
I plan to install the engine on the model ship, so I need an electric starter! Jin

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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2019, 09:40:19 pm »

Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine With variable pitch paddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtISIgpnW9Q&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2019, 10:50:56 pm »
I plan to install the engine on the model ship, so I need an electric starter! Jin

Makes sense if it's going into a boat, but for stand-alone engines I do like Doug's rope-start pulley idea  ;)
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2019, 10:51:56 pm »
Victorian Hit & Miss Gas Engine With variable pitch paddle

That should move across the water quite well  8)

https://youtu.be/XtISIgpnW9Q
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2019, 10:26:45 am »
Makes sense if it's going into a boat, but for stand-alone engines I do like Doug's rope-start pulley idea  ;)


This engine will start easily by hand just like the horizontal. You will not need a rope or electric start unless it goes in a boat.

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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2019, 01:53:57 pm »
Just out of curiosity (and because I have a 50" steam launch in need of a power plant) I wonder how big a boat this would handle - would definitely make for an interesting build.
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2019, 02:25:52 pm »
Just out of curiosity (and because I have a 50" steam launch in need of a power plant) I wonder how big a boat this would handle - would definitely make for an interesting build.

My guess is that it would handle it much more than easily, might even be a bit much for it, depending on the displacement.
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Re: Victorian Hit & Miss gas Engine design by Jin
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2019, 09:25:27 pm »

This engine will start easily by hand just like the horizontal. You will not need a rope or electric start unless it goes in a boat.

Gil

I want to assemble a boat, so install the electric start. Because in the boat, hand start is unwise to operate. Jin

 

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