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Just ran out of Denatured alcohol for my engines. Should I go to Ace Hardware or not? 
I have electrically heated engines and gas fired engines but they just don't have the allure of
meths fired engines.  I'll wear a mask and gloves and go to buy some. To me it's a necessary
Item.

Do many people in the U.S think like these protesters?

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/protest-for-people-sick-and-tired-of-coronavirus-lockdown-in-michigan-20200416-p54kby.html#comments

To be honest, besides many being out of work, life isn't that much different in my area at the moment... a few less people at the stores and more wearing masks, but everyone is still out and about... Our Minnesota stay at home order is kind of pointless, you're still free to do what you want. They have given a few fines/tickets, but they have only been added on to other fines. Say you get a DUI, they add on a fine for breaking the stay at home order. So no protesting here yet...

I don't know what the stay at home policies of the State of Illinois are  exactly but my life also hasn't
changed that much either. I mean, I still go as I please and have only just started wearing a mask. I visit mom
twice a week and still no authorities have tried  to stop me on the road. Yes, I think many feel the way the folks in Michigan feel ,but I haven't seen any other protests outside of Michigan.

I wish there was a bit more common sense involved in this protest. It is awful being out of work, but it ain't so great taking a life-robbing easily transmittable virus to my mother or grandmother. Having a tantrum won't make this go away any quicker, only safe practices.

i sure hope we will get to go to some engine shows this season-fingers crossed!
crazydoug

My fingers are crossed too! Steam School was cancelled for me and the earliest show I go to (beginning of June) has already been cancelled 

I wish there was a bit more common sense involved in this protest. It is awful being out of work, but it ain't so great taking a life-robbing easily transmittable virus to my mother or grandmother. Having a tantrum won't make this go away any quicker, only safe practices.

I like the old Thomas Paine version of Common Sense and The Rights of Man.
Perhaps you are aware that some of the news stories, like the one Jim referenced , are heavily biased and do not contain the complete reasons for those peaceful and orderly protest?  Imagine if you took your mom and grandmother on Easter Sunday to attend a religious service in the parking lot of a church. Stayed in the car . Then you and your family was arrested and jailed as criminals ?  Or maybe mom and grandma buy seeds for their garden and get thrown in jail for disobeying an order of the governor. . Or maybe your mom wants to have her hair done but the mayor forbids it (the same mayor thenhypocritically goes out to her own hair stylist). What if some authoritarian politician was seeking media attention, grandstanding, and even pursues higher political office and forbade your mom and grandmother from getting a valid medical prescription from their family doctor ? Or forbade you to go visit them at their house under penalty of arrest?  Would it be a “tantrum” to stand peacefully in protest and remind the media and government that you are willing to work together but you do not want be deemed criminals by an overly zealous authoritarian regime. Ok, so maybe your mom and grandma wouldn’t do serious jail time. Maybe some “re-education” camp for the old folks. Common Sense Camp in iron letters over the entry gate. Re-education work camps are quite popular in some parts of the world.
I live near Ferguson,  Missouri. I have seen how outright media lies and a radical government agenda can set an American city on fire. I have seen rioters (aka protesters) loot , burn, and threaten the innocent.
 I truly wish this horrid plague does not drive us further into anarchy .
I don't mean to bust your b#lls on this thread. Just trying to show what’s missing in biased news propaganda. God Bless you for taking care of your mom and grandmother, I wish mine were still around.

There's been some rumblings that people have lost their freedoms here in Australia, but for the most people are ok with it because its helped keep our death toll and infections really low.

There's always a few aholes though, very confronting to read that a minority of the younger think its a baby boomer disease only. Even going so far as to call it the "Boomer Remover" along with comments like
"the baby boomers have locked up all the real estate and houses and it will be good for them to be thinned out to allow us into the market". Thankfully, those with such thoughts seem to be in the majority and they mustn't have parents, uncles, aunts or grandparents that they cherish.

Our Prime Minister is talking of lowering restrictions in four weeks, with the knowledge that if infections rise quickly, we will go back to these same restrictions. He's preparing us for the long haul until a vaccine is made. There will be no herd immunity for Australia, social distancing will be the new norm for a long long time.

Stay safe everyone, seeing the worldwide numbers each morning, the deaths and infections are just staggering.