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Is it a Carette or a Doll
« on: July 12, 2019, 01:45:02 pm »
Fresh out of the shipping box comes this engine…





These type of engines where inspired on a French design by HERMANN LACHAPELLE ca.1900


First the French toy makers like Radiguet & Massiot, Rossignol start producing them as models.
Later Carette introduced it in Germany, of course with his French background.


But the engine above does not fit the Carette description.
I now found some weak descriptions that this should be a Doll model.
Does anyone know if Doll also produced these models?

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Danny
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Re: Is it a Carette or a Doll
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 01:59:30 pm »
I look through Doll catalogue for you and find none of the verticals have the two side support rods.

I feel perhaps you are right with Carette but only a guess.

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Re: Is it a Carette or a Doll
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 10:28:36 pm »
Looks Doll to me, but I have yet to add one of this type to the collection... I believe Charlie has a Carette in this style
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Re: Is it a Carette or a Doll
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 12:14:21 am »
I know more in-between.
It's being identified as a rather rare  Doll 346/1
And very early probably 1900-1910

But in this case, although it's a pristine engine, and thehnicly the German engines  are better executed, in the sense of maintenance friendly, and a more solid build.
The French Rossignol versions are in my view aesthetically more beautiful.
Here is one I restored about half a year ago…



I hope to own one day a Radiguet.
They are the cream in this type of engine.
Radiguet is such a pristine brand, wenn I look at their designs it almost if the bring  Jules Verne visions to life…

I also think that these engines as a pre war toy models, is one of the best imitation to an actual industrial one.
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Re: Is it a Carette or a Doll
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 12:41:23 pm »
A similar style engine is on ebay item number 163775999096