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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2021, 12:07:50 pm »
Hi Gavin.

It is an easy question to answer:
The Saxonia did not come with instructions !

I dont believ I had any instructions with any of Karstens models (A Tornado plant and and lots of advanced accessories).

That said; I think it is fair that you get instructions, if you feel for that.If you have reached out to Karsten for this; give it some days. How ever; you might have to send him once more. Thats how it is.


Investing in the Saxonia; I guess you have experience with model-steamengines ?
Its pritty much the same procedures as firing up a standard oscilating Wilesco/ Jensenmodel. Fill water in boiler, ( not all up to the top). Oil moving parts/oscilating cylinder and fill the burner with quality spirit/alcohol.Adjust the hight/level of the "wool" in the burner-ports. Light up & insert.

If you get instructions from Karsten; please let us know :-)

Good luck !   :-)
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Ola

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2021, 12:58:29 pm »
Hi Ola,
Many thanks for the update on the Saxonia and confirming that there are no instructions. I will follow your tips and proceed with caution; if I hear back from Karsten re. instructions, I will let you know on via this post.
Cheers, Gavin

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2021, 03:12:28 pm »
Ola, I’ve run the Saxonia this evening with 180ml water in the boiler and 50ml of ethanol. The steam engine ran for around 10 minutes before the burners went out and after cooling down; there was 60ml water left in the boiler and so I I’ll continue to run it with these volumes. I have one question for you; unlike a turbine where you can run without oil, a reciprocating steam engine needs lubricating with steam oil and I can find no provision to add any. Is this a subject or gave covered with Karsten?
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Gavin

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2021, 03:33:24 am »
The Saxonia is a pretty simple oscillator, so as long as you lube the cylinder contact points and the bearings (if those aren´t OilLite or closed rollerbearings) all is good.

Loads of arguments and opinions regarding lubrication, but unless you intend to run it for hours every day, it will hold up for the rest of your life with very little oiling.
It is good practice to have some oil internally on the cylinderwalls as well, and some usually can be sucked in on an oscillator like this via the exhaust, but going by the amount of older engines here, i feel that the wet steam in there under normal conditions of use, is enough to avoid any heavy wear on those parts.

I´d suggest getting a small bottle of Wilesco steamoil, if you just intend to steam it occasionally (once the initial interest to do so wears off).
It´ll last you a long time, since you only need a few drops with each filling of the boiler.

Loads of prepping movies out there, but since i had it on the bench for cleaning anyway, i just made this little "tutorial" of how i do on this type of engine.

https://youtu.be/MlX6ORpZrEs
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Jan
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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2021, 11:58:53 am »
That is a beauty. How can someone order one of these fine engines? It would look great next to my Karsten Steam Ball.
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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2021, 02:28:10 am »
Jan,
Many thanks for your recommendations and the video. This  is really useful information; particularly pulling out the piston assembly to add a drop of oil.
Regards,
Gavin

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2021, 02:31:20 am »
Looks quite impressive. Is this the first "cylinder engine" by Karsten Gintschel? I have only seen turbines from his workshop, so far.

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2021, 07:12:23 am »
Yes, this is his first “oscillator” steam engine.

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2021, 10:27:24 am »
I recieved an email from Karsten in March about his making a new steam plant named Saxonia  with an oscillating cylinder rather than his turbine powered ones . He was going to limit them to 20 total . I ordered one but since March have not heard from Karsten nor is he answering emails . Has else heard from him or seen a Saxoia that has been built ?

@KY Steam any news on your Saxonia?
Nick

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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2021, 11:20:05 am »
Another great creation by a true master craftsmen. I have bought several of his engines and his wonderful ferris wheel. Surprised i didn,t get an email about this new one. Oh well, i can enjoy these posts. Thanks for posting
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Re: Karsten Gintschel Saxonia
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2021, 03:01:12 pm »
Yes, this is his first “oscillator” steam engine.
Not entirely true ;)

These were made around 2000, according to Roger "Indianarog" who was the owner of both.
The first a one-of prototype sporting Karsten´s signature "ball boiler", the second a productionmodel with a larger vertical boiler.

Pics from Rog´s "Loved but gone" section found here: https://www.indianarog.com/loved-but-gone
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