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komet163b

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Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« on: December 23, 2021, 05:01:13 pm »
  I received my engines from Morphy's Auctions - I'm shocked.
The small DOLL, a Weeden clone, is electric and I've run it
on air.  The big one is a bit of a sticky wicket.

  Anyway, I've added a photo.  The question I have regards the
stuck valves.  The valve on the cylinder head and the water
ram turn as intended.  The whistle, throttle, drain tap and
water fill tap on the boiler will not turn.  I soaked them a
bit with WD-40 and will do so again over the next few days.
Is there anything else I should try?

Wayne


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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2021, 06:27:54 pm »
Nice lot you got, Wayne!

The electric Doll (Weeden clone) is pretty rare.

Just keep soaking the stuck parts with penetrants for at least a week..

Try Liquid Wrench or one of the other super penetrants.

Then try to move them back and forth a little at a time.

Best of luck with it.

Gil

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2021, 08:11:16 pm »
  Thanks Gil.  I'll soon put up a video of the electric DOLL running.
It's a screamer in spite of boiler leaks underneath.  The heater
setup is a bit over complicated and is probably the cause of the
leak.  Any info re model type/number and production years would be
appreciated.

  Your suggestion to loosen the stuck valves on the bigger DOLL rings
true.  Mostly, I need to be.....patient.  Info on model# and production
dates would help. 

Later,
Wayne

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2021, 08:56:44 pm »
Well done on your Doll acquisition
I have one also purchased from a online auction a few years ago .
It gives me 3 “ table ‘ engineb
Electric Doll meths Weeden and meths Bing
Still missing a few for the whole set .



Cheers
Dennis

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2021, 02:18:41 am »
Patience, no PATIENCE, PAAATIENCE for .... sake (insert: the well-being of the engine and its owner, of course!) is essential.

Sometimes a little heat and/or a soft tap with a small hammer might help as well. After the soaking.

And try to understand first where exactly a little force should be applied and how - I think that most broken off handles of such engines are simple due to the fact they come so handy....

Nice engines!

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2021, 08:52:48 am »
Wayne:

Take it very slowly.  And don't force it.

Keep spraying a little more penetrating oil on the stuck parts every day for at least a week.

Good luck!

Charlie

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2021, 02:28:53 pm »
I always steam the engine first - and when it gets hot
the fittings usually come free.
And you can also treat them carefully with household lime remover.
good luck, Arnold :D

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Thanks for the replies and advice.

  I was able to remove the throttle valve, soak it in
PB Blaster, heat it up in the oven, fuss with it and
got it to budge just a smidge.  I knew I had it.  A
bit more careful fussing, back and forth, and it came
free.  Of course, I put it back and tested the engine
on air and it ran, smooth as silk, in a heartbeat.
It even runs on my 69 year-old breath power.
 
  I'm ordering a steamdome with weighted S/V and a filler
plug from Germany.  Worth every penny for an engine that runs.

  For fun, and a first steamup, I will be using an S/V from a
Bing engine.  Video soon.

Wayne

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Re: Two new German engines - need a bit of help
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2022, 01:55:49 pm »
I always have good luck with a little heat. Be careful of any wooden or plastic handles.
Tommy

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