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Hi Nick. What are your thoughts on the base of your little upright Buckman?  Do you think it's original? I can't tell from the pictures if it's a thin-walled pressing, or turned on a lathe.  I think I know when this little engine was made, but this base is confusing.

Thanks.  I think it looked like this.

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Does anyone have this engine in their collection, or know who does?  It's quite rare, last made in 1873.


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Does anyone have this engine in their collection, or know who does?  It's quite rare, last made in 1873.


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@TEC, I have one that’s missing the boiler; otherwise, complete, sturdy, heavy Cast Iron frame in a running order. In fact, it’s the largest Buckman that I have ever seen.

Thanks, Maxwell (and Nick).  I have positively identified the person/company who made this engine, and it's not Buckman.  I'm hoping to find a picture to use in the article I'm working on. The picture I posted here is from a 2009 auction.  Even without a boiler a picture that provides a sense of scale would be useful.  The company had only been in business a few years when they shut down in 1873.  Their engines were more expensive than Buckmans.

Thanks, Maxwell (and Nick).  I have positively identified the person/company who made this engine, and it's not Buckman.  I'm hoping to find a picture to use in the article I'm working on. The picture I posted here is from a 2009 auction.  Even without a boiler a picture that provides a sense of scale would be useful.  The company had only been in business a few years when they shut down in 1873.  Their engines were more expensive than Buckmans.

@TEC @Nick, the picture below shows the engine I have. I was going to use it as a reference to make a boiler. Also, the frame in the picture is painted, mine is Black with faint pinstripes. [ Guests cannot view attachments ]

Quote from: Maxwell on March 23, 2024, 08:34:25 pm

Quote from: TEC on March 23, 2024, 07:22:41 pm

Thanks, Maxwell (and Nick).  I have positively identified the person/company who made this engine, and it's not Buckman.  I'm hoping to find a picture to use in the article I'm working on. The picture I posted here is from a 2009 auction.  Even without a boiler a picture that provides a sense of scale would be useful.  The company had only been in business a few years when they shut down in 1873.  Their engines were more expensive than Buckmans.

@TEC @Nick, the picture below shows the engine I have. I was going to use it as a reference to make a boiler. Also, the frame in the picture is painted, mine is Black with faint pinstripes. (Attachment Link)

@Maxwell, Is this a picture that I could publish?  If not, do you have a link?  Between this picture and the one above, we can see both sides.  I had planned on putting a link to the picture above as a fallback if I couldn't find a picture I'm allowed to use.

Thanks!

@TEC, @Nick it’s from the Smithsonian American National History Museum website; but many of the other engines’ identifications are wrong & attributed to the wrong manufacturer. I was planning to correspond with them to request the corrections; unless someone here on the forum with the required knowledge is willing to do that.
We can even create a new thread that we all participate & agree about the right manufacturer of each steam item, then send it to the museum curator.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search?edan_q=set_name%3A&edan_fq%5B0%5D=set_name%3A%22Engineering%20Steam%20Toys%20and%20Models%22&edan_fq%5B1%5D=set_name%3A%22Work%20and%20Industry%3A%20Mechanical%20and%20Civil%20Engineering%22&edan_local=0&page=1

@Maxwell,Thanks for the link.

I too have found many problems with the Smithsonian engines.  The article I'm working on does not rely on any information which can't be tracked back to historical documents.  When I've published all three parts, it might be a good idea to contact the Smithsonian.