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Schoenner or J. Falk ... 143 F
« on: November 30, 2019, 10:25:21 am »
  First picture post.    This is my 143 F - Schoenner or Falk. As I recall the model number was Schoenner but the colors of the engine are Falk. I remember Joseph Falk acquired Schoenner in the early part of the 20th century.... 1911 guessing.
  If I'm not mistaken Schoenner also made engines for Falk so this might be another explanation for these colors. Schoenner engines I've seen and owned are usually a deep brown with black and gold striping or shades of industrial green. Please correct me or ad any info if I'm off the mark. My research was only memory.
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2019, 11:11:07 am »
Hey there Bob.

I have a similar and have always thought it was a Falk 456/2 but really have nothing to go on.  Mine is not as nice as yours but it runs nice.

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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2019, 11:13:16 am »
I have a similar engine that is a Schoenner with original Green Paint.

This is a very nice engine.

Love the base.

Have you steamed it?
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2019, 11:49:34 am »
Quote from: txlabman on November 30, 2019, 11:13:16 am
I have a similar engine that is a Schoenner with original Green Paint.

This is a very nice engine.

Love the base.

Have you steamed it?

 
 Yes.... I've run it several times and it runs very well.  It came from a great granddaughter of the original owner. I drove hours to get it.
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2019, 11:52:37 am »
I have a similar looking engine that is clearly a J. Falk as it has J. F. in an oval on the left side of the firebox. It has been variously identified as a 450 / 456 ?

Pretty sure mine is a size or so smaller.

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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2019, 11:54:34 am »
Quote from: oilfield_steam on November 30, 2019, 11:11:07 am
Hey there Bob.

I have a similar and have always thought it was a Falk 456/2 but really have nothing to go on.  Mine is not as nice as yours but it runs nice.

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  Nice engine....   The open base on yours was for a tray ?  and thinking about it maybe for a reservoir for a pump on the engine ?
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2019, 11:59:50 am »
Very nice engine Bob, I believe the 143 F is just a casting number and I think you are right going with Schoenner, looks to be a 107/13  ;)
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2019, 12:00:09 pm »
That is just a old Marklin-type tray not attached to the engine at all.  There is a small leak on that end of the boiler and the tray catches the little bit of water that leaks out of the end cap, if that makes sense.
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2019, 02:07:03 pm »
Quote from: Nick on November 30, 2019, 11:59:50 am
Very nice engine Bob, I believe the 143 F is just a casting number and I think you are right going with Schoenner, looks to be a 107/13  ;)


  That model number sound right. There big engines in this style are really nice, one of my favorites.
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2019, 02:13:59 pm »
Quote from: oilfield_steam on November 30, 2019, 12:00:09 pm
That is just a old Marklin-type tray not attached to the engine at all.  There is a small leak on that end of the boiler and the tray catches the little bit of water that leaks out of the end cap, if that makes sense.


 I was referring to your cast base having an opening where mine does not. This might have been to fit a tray to run water through the pump if the engine is equipped with one ? most don't have their trays but I think that's what the open base was for.
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2019, 02:18:46 pm »
    Regarding photos, how does one post a full size image ? I know I've done it before but not on this forum. I'm rusty,   Thanks 
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2019, 02:57:17 pm »
Make sure you click the "Inline full-size image" option from this dropdown box:

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2019, 03:25:06 pm »
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2019, 03:28:04 pm »
  Thanks Scott....
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Re: Schoennor or J. Falk ... 143 F
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2019, 04:56:57 am »
Beautiful !!!
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