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Is there a reason?
« on: April 19, 2020, 06:32:55 am »
Is there some reason we cannot build factories and create jobs and make this stuff here???? Too many people out of work, but we still continue to rely on other countries to make necessary & unnecessary products.

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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2020, 09:16:14 am »
Is there a reason? Yes, too many people are too lazy to work and are encouraged to stay home and collect money and I'm talking before this virus too
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2020, 11:16:06 am »
I am getting more "Be American buy American" all the time , it is ridiculous that we outsource so many things that in times of crisis we realize we are beholding to foreign countries (unfriendly ones at that) for simple goods that we can/have produced here for many decades. this a particular pet peeve of mine. >:(
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2020, 11:53:05 am »
Unfortunately “Made” in America now means “Assembled” in America
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2020, 08:29:25 am »
Between Nixon opening up China in Feb. 1972, (and the other Presidents following right along), and the corporate bean counter's showing their
 bosses how to save a nickle by moving oversea's, we got screwed. Saginaw Mich. used have twelve GM plants alone, now there's one. Oh yeah,
 there's still five plant's by I-75 and MI-46, no wait, those are the old Steering Gear- Delphi Plant's, China bought those and call them Nexteer.
I'm going to say that it's more corporate greed then anything else. When the muckitty- mucks have to wait for a tea off time because some workers
are in front of them having fun on a Saturday, or they have to wait for the guy's in front of them to launch their boat, well this won't do. Those people
should be working on weekends, we must be paying them to much. Get used to it. Look at Ebay, punch in "Live steam engines". Half of the items are coming right from you know where and you keep buying it. I priced out one of those twin cylinder marine engines and boiler from China. Noticed the prices have been rising steadily. I then checked Siato's twin's and boiler's, same price if not cheaper, and I would much rather have one from Japan, but that's
just me.
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2020, 03:48:21 pm »
When i newly hired on with Amercan feightways (now Fedex) I used to run the Anderson In. Route , there was (5) Delphi plants there ,plant #17 used to take trucks in the order they came.  It was nothing for me to have 1 plt, & wait 2hrs to get it delivered, they had 4 dock guys working that dock...3 would play cards on the dock, the driver made the 4th, 1 guy would unload 1 trl...then they rotated , I used to think how inefficient that was & how did they stay in business that way...turns out they didnt...all those plants have been closed for many years now 😑
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2020, 04:48:16 pm »
Sounds to me like those loading dock guys had a STRONG union!
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2020, 05:10:58 pm »
Back in December I ordered a pizza oven and had it shipped to my new residence. It was shipped by FedEx out of the MBS (Midland,BayCity,Saginaw)
terminal because they cover this part of Northern Michigan. It was here in two days, upside down according to arrows on the box, but it was here.
It was damaged inside from the packaging, not the shipping. Sent pics, they sent a new one and it showed up of all days on a Sunday. That driver sat
 it on the ground on it's side with the arrows pointing towards the neighbors. Now in January I bought two of those Rocket Coaches on Ebay. Had them
 shipped up here to my P.O.Box. Seller and Ebay didn't mention they were shipping FedEx and they don't deliver to P.O.Boxes. If they had, I would have
 given my house address. That package also went through MBS and on my birthday tracking said it was out for delivery, YIPPY!. Then it said delivered.
Post Office didn't have it, I didn't have it. I call FedEx and when I get a person, their attitude is like I'm bothering them. My brother calls me from
Saginaw and says there's a box for you on mom's front porch. There's a new label (with my name and mom's address) kind of over the original label for
 my P.O.Box in this town. Now I paid to have it shipped to me and I have to drive 85 miles, one way, to get it, and 85 miles back. The neighbor lady saw
 the driver drop it off and leave so she called my brother. After many phone calls, dead ends and butt heads, someone finally fessed up and said it was
 the only previous address we had for you so we sent it there. Oh really? You guy's were just up to my place, from this office, in December, twice in four
 days. Nice way to run a business, efficient too. Drivers only have to go a couple of miles, drop it off on someones porch, and make you go get it.
 Moral of the story.  EVERY BASKET HAS BAD EGGS, not, ALL EGGS ARE BAD.  Now I check real hard to see who the carrier is when item is being shipped.
 
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2020, 07:18:59 pm »
The USPS is also slipping on their service. On April 10th I sent my Mom a box of gloves 2nd day Priority Mail.
In one day i tracked it to the distribution center in Brockton, MA,
just 20 miles from her home.
It sat there for the next 5 days.
Then it was on the road.
2 days later it was in Springfield, MA at a distribution center.
This one is 100 miles from her home.
3 days later she received it.
10 days for 2nd day service.


I understand there are problems due to the virus but this makes no sense.
I shipped out 2 other packages the same day.... Friday the 10th.
To Ohio and North Carolina.
Both arrived Monday the 13th.

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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2020, 07:41:04 pm »
The USPS is also slipping on their service. On April 10th I sent my Mom a box of gloves 2nd day Priority Mail.
In one day i tracked it to the distribution center in Brockton, MA,
just 20 miles from her home.
It sat there for the next 5 days.
Then it was on the road.
2 days later it was in Springfield, MA at a distribution center.
This one is 100 miles from her home.
3 days later she received it.
10 days for 2nd day service.


I understand there are problems due to the virus but this makes no sense.
I shipped out 2 other packages the same day.... Friday the 10th.
To Ohio and North Carolina.
Both arrived Monday the 13th.


Here's one for you.  When I was living in Mio Mi. a seller about 50 miles north of me sent my package to me via USPS.  It took 6 days to get it. I pitched
a bitch when I found out the truck transporting the mail to it's hub drove right through Mio's downtown, right past my Post Office down to Detroit, next
day it went to Grand Rapids, then it went Saginaw. Each town had it over night, one was on a weekend. When it left Saginaw it came up to Mio. The
Pony Express was more efficient. I should have just drove up there myself, on a moped. The bad part in all of these screw-ups, somebody figured this
was better, sold it to the board of directors, and got a bonus for it.  This crap happens every day.
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2020, 08:23:14 pm »
I think part of the problem here is that you guys are trying to apply logic to these situations.

Big Mistake!

Let me give a USPS example from here. Were I to mail a simple card or letter to my next door neighbor, it goes to the local PO and gets put on a truck the next day to head down south about 300 miles to a distribution center in a town near LA, Santa Clarita to be exact. It may get sorted and loaded on a truck back out the next day ... or not, and may linger there for a few days (or longer if a weekend is involved) before getting on a route truck that may or may not have my town as a direct destination. Thus it may get off for a few more days in places like Bakersfield, Turlock or Fresno, all on the west side of the Sierra, and way out of the way from, and in no way along a direct line to, my town. Sooner or later, it does find its way onto a truck that is actually headed up the east side of the Sierra, and eventually makes it back to my town,  sometime in the afternoon too late for that days deliveries. So early the next morning it is route sorted by the local delivery contractors, and perhaps delivered to the correct address, not always the case, before too late that same afternoon. By the time it was delivered next door, it may well have traveled over 1,000 miles, but certainly at the very minimum it had traveled over 600, while being loaded and unloaded on and off of several trucks, with innumerable sortings in between.

I have had standard mail take as much as ten days to be delivered here in town.

Once had a nice calendar mailed to my by family from about 250 miles away, as the crow flies, mailed before New Years, but it wasn't delivered until almost half way through the year, with prominent tire tracks across the face of it. As embarrassing as that should have been, I'm surprised any carrier had the gumption to actually make the final delivery ... but they probably didn't even notice!
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Re: Is there a reason?
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2020, 08:44:21 pm »
Is there some reason we cannot build factories and create jobs and make this stuff here???? Too many people out of work, but we still continue to rely on other countries to make necessary & unnecessary products.
Maxwell; I spoke to a young friend today who is working hard from home. He does CAD work to build factories here in the USA. He is optimistic.
Yesterday I hired two guys who were out of work to move some metal and do some odd jobs. I wish I had more than just a few days work for them. I rely on friends, family, and local good people to get some necessary (and unnecessary) products. It’s the least I can do.
Finally , it is amazing that I can still get a package delivered to my door in these times of such disaster. I appreciate the efforts of those who try to get the jobs done.