Author Topic: How come I never did this? BIX mod (Read 3346 times)

Steamburns · « **on:** April 21, 2024, 02:38:39 pm »

Today I was playing around and realized my BIX burner with the copper tubing is quite a nuisance. Especially when you have to constantly adjust the pipe shape to accommodate different engines.

I cut the pipe and fitted a rubber hose to it and attached it to the tank. It is night & day difference in making it easier to use and interchange.

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Stoker · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2024, 03:18:30 pm »

I would be a bit leary of the "rubber" hose connection to the copper piping at the burner end. There will most certainly be some heat transferred there, and depending on tubing type, there will likely be some swelling of the hose, which may then lose its grip on the copper pipe and become a flame-thrower whipping around from the gas pressure. Perhaps some wire wrap as a hose clamp would effectively remove that possibility.

Steamburns · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2024, 03:38:17 pm »

Quote from: Stoker on April 21, 2024, 03:18:30 pm

I would be a bit leary of the "rubber" hose connection to the copper piping at the burner end. There will most certainly be some heat transferred there, and depending on tubing type, there will likely be some swelling of the hose, which may then lose its grip on the copper pipe and become a flame-thrower whipping around from the gas pressure. Perhaps some wire wrap as a hose clamp would effectively remove that possibility.

I should’ve cut the pipe longer! Dang! I don’t see anymore than 1-2psi in the gas line? But it does get hot. This is that blue rubber tubing that doesn’t expand until 50 psi or so.

Stoker · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2024, 03:44:56 pm »

I believe some form of hose clamp would still be advisable, for peace of mind if nothing else.

Steamburns · « **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2024, 04:45:53 pm »

Quote from: Stoker on April 21, 2024, 03:44:56 pm

I believe some form of hose clamp would still be advisable, for peace of mind if nothing else.

I fixed it up a bit. Put some clamps. Ran it for 15 mins no issues. Thanks for the advice!

St Paul Steam · « **Reply #5 on:** April 21, 2024, 04:50:06 pm »

Quote from: Stoker on April 21, 2024, 03:18:30 pm

I would be a bit leary of the "rubber" hose connection to the copper piping at the burner end. There will most certainly be some heat transferred there, and depending on tubing type, there will likely be some swelling of the hose, which may then lose its grip on the copper pipe and become a flame-thrower whipping around from the gas pressure. Perhaps some wire wrap as a hose clamp would effectively remove that possibility.

Yes, just as Daniel has said, this scared me when I 1st saw it. there was a reason it had copper plumbing; this is dangerous Travis.

Jim · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2024, 03:30:23 pm »

I must admit to doing this the last couple of years myself (though I use silicone tubing).

We all used rubber hoses to our bunsen burners at school.

Ironhorse57 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2024, 03:18:18 pm »

I have a few gas burners in different sizes, I use this type of flexible pipe on most of them:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/303775683002?

That one is just for illustration, they come with varied end fixings but are easy enough to adapt to most gas jet holders.

Dave

txlabman · « **Reply #8 on:** July 01, 2024, 08:56:46 am »

Quote from: Jim on June 26, 2024, 03:30:23 pm

I must admit to doing this the last couple of years myself (though I use silicone tubing).

We all used rubber hoses to our bunsen burners at school.

Yes we did Jim and without any clamps on them.

Stoker · « **Reply #9 on:** July 01, 2024, 10:33:03 am »

Quote from: txlabman on July 01, 2024, 08:56:46 am

Quote from: Jim on June 26, 2024, 03:30:23 pm
I must admit to doing this the last couple of years myself (though I use silicone tubing).

We all used rubber hoses to our bunsen burners at school.

Yes we did Jim and without any clamps on them.

Yes, but Bunsen burners had their barbs way down at the bottom far away from the flame on top, where far less heat gets to it. The connector snout was also heavily barbed to better grip the tubing, which was of a special class of "rubber" often with fiber weave reinforcing to resist expansion.

Very much a case of apples and oranges here!

Jim · « **Reply #10 on:** July 01, 2024, 07:44:33 pm »

I don't see any danger below -

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Stoker · « **Reply #11 on:** July 01, 2024, 08:01:51 pm »

I agree, your hose takes a good bulge to get over your pipe, and the pipe is long enough that it isn't likely to get much heat coming back from the burner. Were it mine, however, I do believe I'd either have some form of clamp on it, or at least flare the end of the pipe just enough to act as a barb to help grip the hose well.

But then maybe that's just me.

Jim · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2024, 08:10:45 pm »

The BIX copper piping has this brass fitting on the end (I've removed the tiny 'O' ring that goes on the end so I don't lose it whilst using a silicone hose) the silicone hose is a super tight fit to slide over that fitting and quite an effort to remove.

The LPG is coming through a LPG gas gauge regulator on a 9kg gas bottle, the flow is very minimal.

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Stoker · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2024, 08:13:49 pm »

Well then you've definitely got a real "barb" like I was talking about.

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