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Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« on: February 17, 2023, 01:17:58 pm »
Any help with model number and date of both is greatly appreciated 😉





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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2023, 08:05:47 pm »
Great looking pieces of history. Love the colors on both. Thanks for sharing these treasures.
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2023, 08:34:23 pm »
That (those) look SUPERB!!!

Seems somewhere I have the "wreck" of a Bing Monna that looks about like that, though in nowhere near that nice of a condition!

I'd guess pre-war 1910ish for the engine.

Likely sometime in the 1920s for the flat-fixer, postwar anyway maybe.
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2023, 08:37:56 pm »
Quote from: Stoker on February 17, 2023, 08:34:23 pm
That (those) look SUPERB!!!

Seems somewhere I have the "wreck" of a Bing Monna that looks about like that, though in nowhere near that nice of a condition!

I'd guess 1910-1920ish.

Rainer has helped me ID it as a Monna #13675/1  c1904-12 and through some google searching I have found the drive model to be a #10/2102  c1920-29, listed as both “Kraftfahrer” and “Kraftwagenführer” which translate to “driver”
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2023, 09:07:53 pm »
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2023, 04:08:07 am »
Very nice engine and rare toy! And the kids seem to enjoy playing with these fine toys!

Bing produced a "Monna" and a "Vanna" engine. I wonder if the names were inspired by a play, written by Maurice Maeterlinck in 1902, which must have been quite fashionable in those days...
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2023, 05:59:48 am »
@Nick,
Congratulations, a very elegant Bing setup, and the condition is exquisite!
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2023, 08:20:05 pm »
Quote from: Nick on February 17, 2023, 08:37:56 pm
Quote from: Stoker on February 17, 2023, 08:34:23 pm
That (those) look SUPERB!!!

Seems somewhere I have the "wreck" of a Bing Monna that looks about like that, though in nowhere near that nice of a condition!

I'd guess 1910-1920ish.

Rainer has helped me ID it as a Monna #13675/1  c1904-12 and through some google searching I have found the drive model to be a #10/2102  c1920-29, listed as both “Kraftfahrer” and “Kraftwagenführer” which translate to “driver”

Jeezo Nick, you are way too quick for me. I see you captured my first edition post here before I did a minor edit, to bring it to where I was trying to go ... no more than moments later!

Not getting anything by you it seems .........  ;c)
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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2023, 04:23:57 am »
What a wonderful and extremely rare addition to your collection Nick, congratulations!!!

Eventhough i am no Bing expert by far, i would have to slightly disagree with your dating of the 10/2102, and lean stronger towards other sources, which dates these between late 1920s and early 1930´s.

Here it is, cropped from the 1930 catalogue, so at the very least, it would not be gone by 1929:

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Re: Bing Dampfmaschine mit Kraftfahrer
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2023, 08:01:52 am »
Thank you for that Jan, I appreciate the correction as there are too many incorrect dates floating around the internet, which is where I found the one I posted.
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