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Westbury Cheddar live steam engine plant from "Mini-Steam"
« on: December 24, 2020, 06:47:29 pm »
The "Before" video




this is a Westbury Cheddar steam engine I recently purchased from Mini-Steam. It is a ready to run plant that incorporates a Jensen #75 boiler with PMR brass plumbing , throttle valve & steam oiler. I did just a bit of modifications to it by exchanging the metal base for an Oak plinth , I split the axle stanchion , created a beveled slot in the oak & added a larger (Jensen) flywheel to the axle. the boiler now has an immersion rod heater (665W) with a 16/3 awg grounded cord. these Cheddar engines are a treat to run with their sliding through the rear piston rod assembly. they are very smooth & almost noiseless if not for the exhaust note.

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Yet another engine that has seen "The Bruce" and come away all the better for it!!!

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Yet another engine that has seen "The Bruce" and come away all the better for it!!!

Merry Christmas to you and your family good Sir!
Thanks Daniel , I consider this a bargain @ $225.00, I don't really know how powerful it is yet as I haven't powered anything with it , but by putting my finger on the drive pulley to create some resistance it doesn't seem to have anymore power than a Jensen #25/75....if that much. I'll make a video of it running something soon.
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Nice mods Bruce, mine is still unfired... bought one back when Tom did earlier in the year.

By the way, if you’re after a HOG micro stirling, I offered $115 on the ebay one from Ministeam and it was accepted, arrived in 2 days and he’s listed another

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Krick-Hog-Stirling-Engine-Made-In-Germany-for-Live-Steam-Tin-Toys/264985076659?hash=item3db25763b3:g:IHoAAOSwTnpfvrWk
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That sure is a smooth runner Bruce, enjoyed the show  :)

Been looking at these listed by "dougssale" quite a few times, as i find the engine/plant amazing looking, besides a couple of design-flaws...

Agree completely when it comes to the original flywheel.
Always thought they looked like something that fell off a Chinese stirling, and was completely out of place on such a classic looking engine.

...and now that i am spilling my guts already, i actually have one little "beef" more with the original setup here.

I don´t like that steamline much, being the KISS kinda guy i am. 
Just because one has a drawer of fittings, there´s no need to use them all at once.
I really am having a hard time seing what good it does, stretching the steampipe to the floor like that, neither visually nor in a steam engineering perspective.
IMHO there should just have been one downwards bend after the steamdome, like a Jensen...or at least just one knee taking it back to horisontal, in line with the oiler.
Besides a cleaner look, it would most likely also reduce the condensed water slurping, making the engine this hard to get going initially, if it didn´t have to drain that water trap on every startup.

However, this latter objection of mine, might easily turn out to be a well pondered business decision. 
First off, it shows of a bit more of the PMR piping options, which is in stock with MiniSteam as well. 
Secondarely it does take it a bit further away, from being in direct competion with the Jensen line, seing that it already has one of their boilers installed as well.
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 Very nice Bruce , thanks for posting the videos. Always enjoys seeing you creative work.
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That sure is a smooth runner Bruce, enjoyed the show  :)

Been looking at these listed by "dougssale" quite a few times, as i find the engine/plant amazing looking, besides a couple of design-flaws...

Agree completely when it comes to the original flywheel.
Always thought they looked like something that fell off a Chinese stirling, and was completely out of place on such a classic looking engine.

...and now that i am spilling my guts already, i actually have one little "beef" more with the original setup here.

I don´t like that steamline much, being the KISS kinda guy i am.
Just because one has a drawer of fittings, there´s no need to use them all at once.
I really am having a hard time seing what good it does, stretching the steampipe to the floor like that, neither visually nor in a steam engineering perspective.
IMHO there should just have been one downwards bend after the steamdome, like a Jensen...or at least just one knee taking it back to horisontal, in line with the oiler.
Besides a cleaner look, it would most likely also reduce the condensed water slurping, making the engine this hard to get going initially, if it didn´t have to drain that water trap on every startup.[
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However, this latter objection of mine, might easily turn out to be a well pondered business decision.
First off, it shows of a bit more of the PMR piping options, which is in stock with MiniSteam as well.
Secondarely it does take it a bit further away, from being in direct competion with the Jensen line, seing that it already has one of their boilers installed as well.
Jan , you read my mind exactly , its scary how much we think alike. I almost put a Jensen steam line on it for a very much more "Classic" look ,but didn't have a spare line laying around & forgot about it, that line does look very scabbed together & detracts from the elegance of an otherwise beautiful display (along with the metal engine base) probably why its not a great seller....he got most of the way there , but forgot to consult with his design department. I may have to look a little harder at replacing that steam line here in the future, I don't understand that catch basin trap design in the bottom of the "U" as well....& your right , that probably is where the "gurgling" is coming from.
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very nice Bruce, and seeing your Mods really makes me miss being allowed to go out to my shop and do some engine work of my own. It has been 2 months since shoulder surgery and probably another month yet till i am allowed in the shop. For now, I will have to settle for watching the wonderful work by you and other talented forum members.
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The wood engine base does look a whole lot better than the metal one. I have one of these
and have been wanting to electrify it also, but I might try the belly heater. Picked up
another engine assembly for it and was thinking of a twin. What do you think Bruce?
The pistons in these things are the size of the head screws for a Jensen 20.
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The wood engine base does look a whole lot better than the metal one. I have one of these
and have been wanting to electrify it also, but I might try the belly heater. Picked up
another engine assembly for it and was thinking of a twin. What do you think Bruce?
The pistons in these things are the size of the head screws for a Jensen 20.
Your the reason I bought this one Tommy 😁👌
I think a twin Westbury Cheddar would be nice , I wish I had matched the wood a little better on mine. I knew these weren't very powerful having the valving & the piston in that same cylinder block. Installing a belly heater would be a simple and easy fix re:heat. I bought this for the elegance of the piston rod movement and have not been disappointed , its memorizing to watch.
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Very nice plant and even nicer after the 'Bruce' pamper and treatment.
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Bruce, I’m sure you already know this, but if anyone else has one of these, make sure you clean/oil the bare steel. I bought one several months back after seeing Tom’s... gave it a quick glance over on arrival to make sure there was no damage and put it back in the box on the shelf. Fast forward to yesterday, I pulled it down off the shelf and there’s a couple minor spots of rust on the crank and one of the small bolts on the rod. I never touched these parts back when I received it, but they were likely handled in the build or during packing... or the rust may have even been there when I received it...
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Good to know Nick, I still have mine down & playing with , but will try to coat these areas with wd-40 when I put it away 😉👍
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I decided to rearrange the plumbing as Jan suggested , it now has a much cleaner presentation & the condensate is not trapped in that big "U" pit in the plumbing.

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Much cleaner looking and less gurgling sound from the condensate  8)  And now the little men won’t have that pipe to trip over when oiling the engine  :D
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