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SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« on: December 14, 2024, 04:57:42 pm »
Hey out there in fuel fume saturated Forum land.

Does anybody know why Jin calls his little vertical M19 Hit & Miss engine ......  SAM???

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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2024, 05:24:12 pm »
Ron Walter's explains it.....



(And I thought he defined SAM, but not so.)

According to Stirlingkit... https://tinyurl.com/y22cc9ym

"What's SAM Hit 'n Miss Engine?

"SAM" here means "Silver Angel Metric". Silver Angel was designed by the late Bob Shore, a model engineer from Florida."
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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2024, 07:13:46 pm »
Thank you for that link, and for the further research to come up with the name.

I suspect that the original version by Bob Shore was likely made with an aluminum body to fit the "Silver" in its name.

So perhaps we should be calling this current version the BAM for "Brass Angel Metric", rather than SAM!?!?   ;c)
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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2024, 06:41:18 pm »
Quote from: Stoker on December 14, 2024, 07:13:46 pm
....perhaps we should be calling this current version the BAM for "Brass Angel Metric", rather than SAM!?!?  ;c)

Maybe JAM?  'JIN's Angel Metric' because it's his version.
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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2024, 06:52:47 pm »
Quote from: rodnoc on December 15, 2024, 06:41:18 pm
Quote from: Stoker on December 14, 2024, 07:13:46 pm
....perhaps we should be calling this current version the BAM for "Brass Angel Metric", rather than SAM!?!?  ;c)

Maybe JAM?  'JIN's Angel Metric' because it's his version.

That could be a good one, but I'm less than certain Jin is the source or originator of this version. Seems from your operations video link that it has been on the market from many sources for quite a while. Microcosm, OKMO, Eachine, Enginedly and perhaps several others seem to be selling these, so who knows who actually made them?!?!
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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2025, 02:34:39 pm »
Bonjour,

I like jam especially blackberry but 'JIN's Angel Metric' is good too  ;D

To my opinion, no doubt, it is a Jin's creation as other brands listed are resellers.

I bought mine to Jin, as usual very nice looking and as usual very difficult to adjust.

I had to close a notch of the needle valve after a few minutes of operation because of the increasing heat of the engine:

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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2025, 10:28:57 am »
Quote from: Stoker on December 15, 2024, 06:52:47 pm
Quote from: rodnoc on December 15, 2024, 06:41:18 pm
Quote from: Stoker on December 14, 2024, 07:13:46 pm
....perhaps we should be calling this current version the BAM for "Brass Angel Metric", rather than SAM!?!?  ;c)

Maybe JAM?  'JIN's Angel Metric' because it's his version.

That could be a good one, but I'm less than certain Jin is the source or originator of this version. Seems from your operations video link that it has been on the market from many sources for quite a while. Microcosm, OKMO, Eachine, Enginedly and perhaps several others seem to be selling these, so who knows who actually made them?!?!
Microcosm, OKMO, Eachine, Enginedly and perhaps several others are all selling Jin's engines.
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Re: SAM Microcosm M19 Hit & Miss engine
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2025, 11:20:18 am »
Good to know!
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