Well, here it is, the first steamup of the Bing clone
of a Weeden 14. Any information as to its model# and
years of production would be appreciated. A link is
provided. It does scream right along.
https://youtu.be/7Nfkq884S8U It is surprising how well it runs in spite of the leak
at or near the heater setup which is, to say the least,
'over thought' in design. Didn't blow a fuse! I added
3 pix to show - check out the 'insulation beads'. They
will slide back and forth over the bare heater leads. All
toooooo complex. Typical Teutonic overthink. And, so
long as it steams up and runs, it will not be disturbed.
Wayne
Runs well. Not something you'd want to pick up once plugged in. The fingers will find the bare wires.
Amen. To be certain, no reaching underneath while 'on'.
How was this even sold this way? No consumer protection
in those days, not that I'd have paid any attention.
Given that, it is a fast runner. I'll probably do one
official steamup video after a cleaning and adding a new
whistle, and then run maybe once a year. Too nice to risk
any regular use.
I am happy to see how nice the paint and pin striping
looks. Not perfect, just right.
Wayne
Back in the day they also sold mains current toy trains.
Imagine giving your kids a train set with live tracks at 115 or 220 volts!
I have a collection of early electric child,s toys. Kids must have been more expendable back then, or maybe they listened better when told" don,t touch that"!
Crazydoug
I am a little confused
Is it a Doll or Bing ? As you keep referring to both
And that heater looks nothing like my Electric Doll
My heater is a belly blanket ? And under it is a steel plate to stop little fingers .
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And also from
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Cheers
Dennis
That's pretty neat Dennis.
First off......Merry Christmas to all, and a happy New Year!
Dennis....thanks for the comments, info, and especially pix.
Mine is an exact match - except for the heater which is very
different (the power leads are the same). Maybe mine is a
replacement homemade heater. I don't know, but it is very
powerful/fast. You can hear the early steaming sounds within
a minute or so. Pretty strange, but I've read the Germans mixed
things up a bit w/models at times. Interestingly, I have a
KJ Miller engine with a cracked boiler that leaks at the base
where the power leads go in and have never been shocked, even
to a low trace voltage degree. Then again, I probably had
sneakers on and didn't go out of my way to give it a chance
to zap me. Been there, done that.
Now I know what the steam dome looks like. Hmmmm, I need to
work on finding one.
Also, the reason I referred to it as a Bing clone of a Weeden
is because I think (oops) that was the way it was described. I
was also under the impression Dolls were made at the Bingwerks.
Finally, could you shoot me a photo of the cover of your
reference book? Great photos!
Wayne
Not a reference book as such but a magazine .
Toy Steam News
The journal of Steam and the Bowman circle
Issue 5 Summer 2009
I think issue 4 has the Weeden 648. Ie electric version of Weeen 14
Issue 6 has Weeden 647
Unfortunately i am missing issues 1 2 3 .
As for Doll and Bing
I am under the impression they were separate companies
But like a lot of steam toy manufacturers there was a lot of looking over the fence to,see who was making what
Fhe same went on here with David Auld copying Cranko,
Cheers
Dennis
Hello Dennis,
Doll and Bing were separate companies. Doll was founded in 1898 and, since the owners were Jews, was forcibly sold to Gebrüder Fleischmann in 1938. When Bing was founded, probably in the 1890s, I do not know. The company did not survive the Great Depression of the early 1930s.
Well, I found my multimeter and put a battery in it.
After zeroing it out I checked the resistance across
the two prongs of the plug and it was about 25 ohms.
I'd feel safe saying I'm running at least 4 amps (and
maybe more) which I calculate to be well over 400 watts.
For a small brass boiler like this that is a whole lotta
heat. No wonder it steamed up in a jiffy. Still agog
over the bare wires w/ceramic beads original wiring.
And, what a strange aftermarket heating unit it is.
Wayne
I am a little confused
Is it a Doll or Bing ? As you keep referring to both
Cheers
Dennis
Allow me to try and explain (it is not simple :-0
It appears that the Doll & Co line of toys (and others) were put to market in USA, (through Sears I think), by the 'Bing Wolf Corp' establishment.
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Here are three of the Doll type Bing things marketed by the Bing Wolf Corp.
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And a Doll Lokomobile by the same arrangement.
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Thanks for the clarification.