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« on: September 02, 2019, 06:13:20 pm »
Have had the honor of having this in my shop. Only doing a good cleaning and making missing parts for it. Still got a few parts to make but it's getting closer to being done.  This is a very different engine from normal. The boiler was rolled from flat sheet brass and riveted, has D slide valve made like full size steam engines, has drain valve in boiler, throttle valve is in steam line block at steam chest, vent holes in firebox and firebox was made from galvanized sheet metal. Very neat engine. Hope to have it done soon. Still got the make lamp post and relief valve for it.

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2019, 06:33:38 pm »
Wow, Randy, what a fantastic piece! I had always wondered if any of these had survived. I’m sure it will be perfect when you’re done with it.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2019, 06:55:56 pm »
Thanks. I forgot to add picture of bottom of boiler.

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2019, 07:10:05 pm »
Why do you suppose the fire box has vent holes if the boiler is electrically fired?

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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2019, 07:29:55 pm »
Randy, that sure is a rare beast...I personally have never seen one before...good it landed in your hands to bring it back to life.

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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2019, 07:31:37 pm »
Can't really answer why vent holes.  Only thing I can figure is maybe he was thinking of making it fire heated and changed to electric? It has the Chromalox heater in it. I know that's what he used in his very early stuff. It's been suggested that it may have been to vent heat out from under boiler away from board. There is no insulation in firebox so this maybe why.

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2019, 07:53:33 pm »
I've never quite seen anything like that before, gotta be very VERY early, neat to see Randy, thanks for showing us & good luck with the work performed.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2019, 07:56:14 pm »
Is this Jack Boyle’s engine or another one with the Chromalox heater?  Seeing 2 in less than 10 days would be less likely than winning the lottery. 🤠

I am curious about the cord. It doesn’t look like the cloth cords from my early Jensen Riveted Boiler engines. Do you think it is original.

Has the asbestos lining been disposed of?

I breath a sigh of relief knowing this rare beast is in the hands of a skilled restorer!  🙏🙏🙏

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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2019, 08:10:41 pm »
Yes it is Jack's engine. (Trying to talk he out of it). Don't think it ever had the asbestos lining in it. Talked him out of restoring it. Just doing a good cleaning, fixing and replacing missing parts. Trying to preserve what is there. It can only be original once. No matter how much you try you can't ever put it back.

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2019, 08:23:46 pm »
The cord is twisted cloth covered wire. By the way it is attached to heater I would say it's original. It is wrapped with cloth tape at connection very neatly done. Still very tight and heater works, so I'm not taking it off. Someone had added a more modern cord to this cord to make it longer. I took that cord off and put a new old style end on it.

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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2019, 08:24:57 pm »
The new end on cord. Don't know what it would have had originally,  but this is what was used in that time period.

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2019, 08:26:50 pm »
Keep forgetting to add pictures.

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2019, 09:43:18 pm »
I know about these holes in the firebox. The very first Jensens were built with open flame heating requiring the vent holes. At the first major toy show that Tom Sr. showed them, he received his first order for 50 engines contingent on them all being heated electrically. Rather than make new fireboxes, (remember, Tom Jensen Sr. wasted nothing), He simply added electric heating.

This engine appears in Jensen's earliest known advertising and the cut was used throughout the 1930's and into the 1940's even though all the engines sold were electrically heated.

Hope this helps,

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Here are two of the early ads and both have that ultra rare Big Power Plant
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Notice even the artists cuts in the ads ads have the electric cord.


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Re: D Valve Jensen
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2019, 10:17:19 pm »
Love this piece, thank you for sharing it with us! That boiler sure is neat, and the seam is riveted quite crudely compared to the endcap rivets (understandable since Tom Sr. had a tool for those)

Neat that Gil's ad also shows the slanted gauge and drain cock, many times toy steam ads aren't an exact match, but these look more like actual pictures.

Wise choice to not over-restore this one...
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2019, 06:29:45 am »
Love this piece, thank you for sharing it with us! That boiler sure is neat, and the seam is riveted quite crudely compared to the endcap rivets (understandable since Tom Sr. had a tool for those)

Neat that Gil's ad also shows the slanted gauge and drain cock, many times toy steam ads aren't an exact match, but these look more like actual pictures.

Wise choice to not over-restore this one...
" ad also shows the slanted gauge and drain cock" good eye Nick, it also looks as if the rivets on the bottom are actually peened over & not merely soldered in place.
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